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For those of you with some experience, is the speed of the 510 ( without the increaser), fast enough for use with the jointer?

The jointer always catches my eye when looking through the sales catalogues but I wonder about the speed. The SS unit would sure be a step up from my small 4" Craftsman jointer that I now have.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

John

Yes John, you can operate the 4" Shopsmith Jointer on the Shopsmith without a speed increaser. I have been operating that way for many years. I routinely joint at least one edge of every board that I rip cut.

For years I had the jointer "permanently stationed" on the left end of the Shopsmith. I have now mounted a router table in that location and I operate the jointer on the Power Station. The Power Station is also used with my bandsaw.

john wrote:For those of you with some experience, is the speed of the 510 ( without the increaser), fast enough for use with the jointer?

The jointer always catches my eye when looking through the sales catalogues but I wonder about the speed. The SS unit would sure be a step up from my small 4" Craftsman jointer that I now have.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

John

John
Are you asking about the Shopsmith 4" Mark v Mount Jointer part #555483 or are you asking about the Shaper attachment. The joiinter was designed to work with the SS without any need of a speed increaser. In fact the speed dial on the you Mark v has a speed range clearly marked for jointer operation.

If you talking about the shaper package #555141 then yes it will work but the speed increaser does really help. I have used the shaper without the speed increaser and it works fine, you have to feed slowly to get the number of cut per inch to be in the right range but it will work just fine. The speed increaser allows you to increase your feed rate.
Ed

Hi,

From memory the output for the jointer runs at 1.6X the speed on the dial. Since I don't have that number or book in front of me you might want to check the book....

Ed

john wrote:For those of you with some experience, is the speed of the 510 ( without the increaser), fast enough for use with the jointer?

The jointer always catches my eye when looking through the sales catalogues but I wonder about the speed. The SS unit would sure be a step up from my small 4" Craftsman jointer that I now have.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

John

Hi, John - The jointer works on the lower of the two caps on the left side of the headstock. This lower cap is on the end of the idler shaft. This shaft turns faster (1.6:1) than the upper shaft (back side of the quill) and it is fast enough for the jointer, where indicated on the speed dial.

The Speed Increaser would not affect the speed of the jointer at all. The speed increaser fits on the other side (left) of the headstock and works off of the spindle.

I just checked the book and I was correct about the 1.6 times, see page 73 of the current PTWFE just under the Jointer Speed Chart (Table 6-1).

Ed

Thanks for the information.

Now I must see how I can add this to my list of wanted tools.

The other item I am leaning towards more and more is a power station for the band saw. Since attaching the Kreg fence, I find it difficult to remove. Maybe I need a set-up like Doug showed.

John

You then have what I feel is an important decision, john. Do you want a "Power Station" or a power stand for your bandsaw. The Power Station will service anything that you can power on the Shopsmith. The power stand is dedicated to a piece of equipment.

I have has a Power Station almost from day one. I recently put together a power stand out of parts picked up here and there. I now use that for my belt sander.

I purchased the Jointer, Band Saw, Belt Sander and Strip Sander. Then an injury assisted me in realizing the aging body would be unable to safely lift all but the strip sander on and off of my 520. Over several months I have added dedicated stands and motors for each tool except the strip sander. All of them have the wheel units shopsmith sells. My shop is a bit too small to have every tool easily accessable all the time. Being able to roll them in and out of a useable location is a priceless gift. I also have a non shopsmith thickness planer on wheels. At some point I will replace it with a self contained shopsmith model. I have never owned the Power Station yet decided that given my inability to lift heavy and unusual shapes the dedicsted stands were the answer. I also plan to purchase the Flea Sander I am yet unsure if the weight will allow me to lift it on and off of the SS. Jim

Dusty:

I was thinking of the "power station" for the very reason you mentioned, it can service several tools. This may sound strange when I am contemplating one because of difficulty moving the bandsaw, but my shop and available space is too small to do what Jim has done, at least at this time. At the moment the band saw and strip sander are the only two tools I have that attach to the headstock. The BS usually remains on but has to be moved for the strip sander so the PS could accomodate either.

However the other thing that is at a premium these days is $$$ so I don't know when I will manage to add big dollar items to my shop. Several smaller things like a conical sanding disk will probably come first unless of course Santa is extra good this year.

John