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Veneer / glue - help needed
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:33 am
by Underdog
I was helping my brother in law install a "new" interior door this weekend. We picked up an unused, unfinished door and were down in the basement priming it for paint when we noticed what appears to be the veneer lifting off the door in one spot.
Anyone have suggestions on how we can get this glued back down?
Thanks.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:36 am
by Underdog
Try this...[ATTACH]13196[/ATTACH]
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:42 am
by JPG
Underdog wrote:Try this...[ATTACH]13196[/ATTACH]
and this...[ATTACH]13197[/ATTACH]
Primer is????
I would not try anything until it has dried. It MAY flatten back a little. I fear you will have to get glue under it and apply pressure.
Consider returning it to where you got it. Methinks it is 'defective'!
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 7:36 am
by pennview
If for some reason you can't return the door, you'll need to get glue in there. One way is to use an hobby/xacto knife to cut slits in the veneer with the grain of the wood so that you can insert glue under the veneer. For glue, I'd use Titebond III, waterproof glue and insert it with one of those bellows-type glue injector bottles. After inserting the glue, cover it with wax paper and then a square of plywood or solid wood and clamp it in place until the glue dries.
Even though repairing isn't that difficult, I'd send it back. There could be other problems with the original glue job that could show up later.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:23 pm
by wingrider
Return that door if posable, it's defective. I worked in a door factory for 10 years and de-lamination is from poor adhesion and/or moisture getting under the veneer, it will only get worse. You can try to re-glue it but it will not lay back down right.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:33 pm
by Underdog
Thanks guys. It is as I feared - most likely a defective door.
The primer was only Kilz indoor/outdoor water based primer and stuck well every where but this one spot. We'll probably try to glue it back down just to get the project finished, but I wouldn't be surprised if a "new" door is in his future.
Wingrider - thank you. I LOVE how this place has a little expertise from just about every field out there.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 5:37 pm
by charlese
Looks like Art (pennview) was posting for me! Ditto to everyting he said!:D
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:03 pm
by Underdog
Returning the door wasn't an option for us. So, here are photos of the repair:
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We ended up cutting across the grain, lifting up a flap of veneer, and smearing glue underneath. The veneer didn't fit exactly back in place, so a little trimming was needed. But, with glue filling the cut/gap and the door painted, it looks good.
Thanks all for the help!
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:33 pm
by jimsjinx
I hate those kinda doors. They are everywhere these days,too! Any moisture at all and "BAM"==== huge delaminations. You did a decent job repairing it. You must have the same luck as me! "Not an option" is so familiar to me!!! Good job, though! jimsjinx
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:19 am
by Shop_Smith_Poppi
Well I had that problem once as well. I took a very small hypodermic needle and syringe and filled with glue. Then injected it under the bubbles and used two pieces of wood and a a few clamps to hold it down flat. it worked out great until the house fire.
Seems glue is not fire resistant either!
