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New Shopsmith DC-6000 Dust Collector

dusty

algale wrote BOM = Bill of Materials. It's the list of parts with names and part numbers. Should be included with the instructions.

There is a BOM for the DC-6000 (here titled Parts List) on page 9 of this thread. As used here it is a list of all part numbered items required to assemble the top level item. Along with the BOM is an Exploded View of the Parts List to show where each of the parts is located.

jcgorla

I ordered the upgrade kit based on the sale flyer email. Didn't think at the time of all the questions posed in this thread, but glad the information about it finally came to light. My upgrade kit is on backorder, so the initial batch sold out very quickly. Looking forward to hearing more information from those who have upgraded their dust collectors.

dusty

jcgorla wrote I ordered the upgrade kit based on the sale flyer email. Didn't think at the time of all the questions posed in this thread, but glad the information about it finally came to light. My upgrade kit is on backorder, so the initial batch sold out very quickly. Looking forward to hearing more information from those who have upgraded their dust collectors.

Welcome to this mad house. Always good to get another new member.

You might appreciate being able to see how your DC-3300 performance actually changed with the installation of the upgrade. I certainly am. I have developed a jury rig test set to measure air speed (fan rpm). The details are here on the forum. If interested, it would be a pleasure to offer the details of what I have done. I;m just waiting now for the kit to come.

ssuel

Before I ordered my DC3300 upgrade I search for more info on the upgrade on the ShopSmith website and did find much just what was contained within the email link. Also some replied on this thread that the $279.99 sale price wasn’t a real sale price. Today I found this on the website . It contains the upgrade description and the regular price. Maybe this weblink was there and I just missed it. Turns out it was on sale. Or a price increase just occurred?

My upgrade is suppose to arrive later today :) :)

https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/DC-3300_upgrade.htm

algale

Good find! Confirms the upgrade gives all the performance of the DC6000.

But also has a big caveat: if your DC3300 was built prior to October 1991 (has a steel rather than plastic housing), the upgrade isn't compatible!

I will bet this will cause some consternation among members who have already bought the upgrade!

shopsmithpaul

That link is a good find. 100% certain it was NOT up at the time of the introduction sale. I am sure someone on this forum would have found it. I searched by the upgrade part number 557092 and other descriptive searches and found nothing that gave that much information. At the time I did find a catalog page with a photoshopped image that listed the $279 as a presumed regular price for the upgrade as it did not say sale price or special offer. I was thinking of going for the $279, but not so sure for $95 more. With the included $30 gift card, that was a really good offer. Kudos to anyone who took advantage of the sale.

shopsmithpaul

I just went back to the sale email and clicked the "buy now" tab and this is what came up. https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/specials/7DV713

I still had this same page up on my computer from the time of the sale and the prices on both the upgrade and the DC-6000 are listed as $279 and $739, now the same page lists them as $374 and $879.

jsburger

They still didn't get that page correct. Down at the bottom under "What’s Included:" it makes no mention of the fan and fan housing. Only the motor and motor housing. I know it does say fan and fan housing just above that but, still... That was the issue that started this thread, a lack of a clear description.

dusty

jsburger wrote They still didn't get that page correct. Down at the bottom under "What’s Included:" it makes no mention of the fan and fan housing. Only the motor and motor housing. I know it does say fan and fan housing just above that but, still... That was the issue that started this thread, a lack of a clear description.

Are we nit picking the marketing documents? I think so. The new flyer answers all of the reasonable questions one might have.

jsburger

dusty wrote
jsburger wrote They still didn't get that page correct. Down at the bottom under "What’s Included:" it makes no mention of the fan and fan housing. Only the motor and motor housing. I know it does say fan and fan housing just above that but, still... That was the issue that started this thread, a lack of a clear description.
Are we nit picking the marketing documents? I think so. The new flyer answers all of the reasonable questions one might have.

You can call it nit picking if you want but what is not included in the current "What’s Included:" list is exactly what created this thread with 210 comments.

RFGuy

dusty wrote
jsburger wrote Are we nit picking the marketing documents? I think so. The new flyer answers all of the reasonable questions one might have.
You can call it nit picking if you want but what is not included in the current "What’s Included:" list is exactly what created this thread with 210 comments.

Call it nitpicking if you want, but I think Shopsmith purposely makes their sales flyers vague to discourage customers from purchasing at the sale price in hopes they will purchase later at full price, i.e. they are intended as advertisements only. As I said previously, this isn't the first sales flyer that I found vague prompting me to skip the sale...and I don't think I am the only one. To top it off, it is still unclear to me if there is any improvement with either the DC-6000 or the upgraded DC-3300 because the majority of Shopsmith owners tend to only use one 2-1/2" hose connected at a time. Didn't Jim's CFM numbers confirm that there is no improvement with the DC-6000 over a DC-3300 (old or upgraded) when only one 2-1/2" port is open and in use? IF someone wants to plumb a 4" duct to the DC-6000 or upgraded DC-3300 then that would have an improvement presumably, but not for a single 2-1/2" port.

dusty

RFGuy wrote
dusty wrote
jsburger wrote Are we nit picking the marketing documents? I think so. The new flyer answers all of the reasonable questions one might have.
You can call it nit picking if you want but what is not included in the current "What’s Included:" list is exactly what created this thread with 210 comments.
Call it nitpicking if you want, but I think Shopsmith purposely makes their sales flyers vague to discourage customers from purchasing at the sale price in hopes they will purchase later at full price, i.e. they are intended as advertisements only. As I said previously, this isn't the first sales flyer that I found vague prompting me to skip the sale...and I don't think I am the only one. To top it off, it is still unclear to me if there is any improvement with either the DC-6000 or the upgraded DC-3300 because the majority of Shopsmith owners tend to only use one 2-1/2" hose connected at a time. Didn't Jim's CFM numbers confirm that there is no improvement with the DC-6000 over a DC-3300 (old or upgraded) when only one 2-1/2" port is open and in use? IF someone wants to plumb a 4" duct to the DC-6000 or upgraded DC-3300 then that would have an improvement presumably, but not for a single 2-1/2" port.

I yield to your comment about "Improvement". It all depends on what the user does with it. If you are a one hose person with a DC-3300 you will likely not recognize any "improvement". I have been but will no longer me a one hose person. This will allow me to connect to both my table saw and jointer at the same time with no lose in performance.

We differ completely on Shopsmith's advertising tactics.

JPG

jsburger wrote
dusty wrote
jsburger wrote They still didn't get that page correct. Down at the bottom under "What’s Included:" it makes no mention of the fan and fan housing. Only the motor and motor housing. I know it does say fan and fan housing just above that but, still... That was the issue that started this thread, a lack of a clear description.
Are we nit picking the marketing documents? I think so. The new flyer answers all of the reasonable questions one might have.
You can call it nit picking if you want but what is not included in the current "What’s Included:" list is exactly what created this thread with 210 comments.

ssuel

Ok I got my upgrade. I am trying to attach 6 pics. It came with an 8-9 pages upgrade instructions that is illustrated too. I will not be able to start the upgrade process until next week... my grandkids just arrived and shop is an early morning playground for the next week. So I will not be able to report anything on that for awhile.

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RFGuy

Very interesting...it looks like an off the shelf squirrel cage blower.

ssuel

Yes blower impeller is housed in metal and a metal inlet screwed onto metal. All the parts that came in the box are in the one picture where laid out on the work bench. The motor is housed in a thick plastic similar to my original (I updated my original posted description after a closer look.)

dusty

RFGuy wrote Very interesting...it looks like an off the shelf squirrel cage blower.

What would you expect it to look like? Is it not just a squirrel cage blower sized to fit the space available?

RFGuy

dusty wrote What would you expect it to look like? Is it not just a squirrel cage blower sized to fit the space available?

Dusty,

Sorry, I mis-spoke. Technically it is not a squirrel cage blower fan. I was just commenting on how it looks like a standard off-the-shelf blower fan. In other words, it doesn't look like a special design just for Shopsmith. Only speaking of the blower itself - not the plastic housing to mount it in the DC-3300/6000.

DLB

As discussed earlier in this thread I had intended to buy the upgrade kit until I received incorrect information from CS indicating that the kit did not include a fan/impeller. I compounded CS' error for them by reporting that information here. At the time the introductory/sale pricing ended we were in the dark as to the actual content of the kit. I'm happy to report that SS CS has made this right for me by offering to honor the original introductory pricing special on the upgrade kit. If others were impacted by the incorrect content description it might be worthwhile to contact CS and explain the situation. SS CS (Denise) seemed well aware of both the absence of information on the web site at the time of the sale and of the timing of the misinformation and corrected information.

I didn't ask for this resolution. I had made the recommendation to CS that they place the item back on sale. Which I still think would be the best choice, but perhaps is not practical for the MS.

Note - Upgrade kits are backorder, or were last week when I ordered.

- David

dusty

DLB wrote As discussed earlier in this thread I had intended to buy the upgrade kit until I received incorrect information from CS indicating that the kit did not include a fan/impeller. I compounded CS' error for them by reporting that information here. At the time the introductory/sale pricing ended we were in the dark as to the actual content of the kit. I'm happy to report that SS CS has made this right for me by offering to honor the original introductory pricing special on the upgrade kit. If others were impacted by the incorrect content description it might be worthwhile to contact CS and explain the situation. SS CS (Denise) seemed well aware of both the absence of information on the web site at the time of the sale and of the timing of the misinformation and corrected information.

I didn't ask for this resolution. I had made the recommendation to CS that they place the item back on sale. Which I still think would be the best choice, but perhaps is not practical for the MS.

Note - Upgrade kits are backorder, or were last week when I ordered.

- David

My order, previously back ordered, is now in shipping channels.

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