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I removed myself from all Shopsmith Facebook Groups

dusty

Oh Well. I find myself spending a lot of time with the younger set.I find myself moving the other direction.

Ed in Tampa

I had Face Book, deleted my account, best move I have ever made on the internet.

I am of the opinion that any company that appreciates it's customers would never consider the use of FaceBook.

Majones1

Actually, young people these days have moved away from Facebook. They may have an account, they don’t use much, for family communications, or for business reasons, like selling things to older people. :eek:

dusty

Opinions just might change if one spent some time on any one or all of the Shopsmith FB sites, Mine certainly did.

chapmanruss

Marc,

You said

One thing I realized after I posted my earlier comment is that I think I mistakenly recognized the wrong person as the historian, it is you, Russ, who has been doing the wonderful, deep-dive histories.

You should know that a lot of the information I know is thanks to Everett. I was, at one time, like you a new to Shopsmith tool owner having received my Father-in-laws Mark V 520 eager to learn more about them. With the help of Everett and many others I have learned, researched and used hands on experience to learn what I know today. I have a lot of reference material I have collected in both print and electronic but you should know Everett has copies of documents most of us cannot get other than through what he has made available to us. This includes information from documents he was allowed to copy from Shopsmith's records when he visited the plant to do research for his book. Something else he made available to us is PDF copies of the internal employee newsletters from Magna which he purchased that provided a look into the company and the people working there. I have been happy to pass on the knowledge I have learned from Everett and others on this Shopsmith Forum which is where I prefer to be as opposed to FB groups.

rlkeeney

Forums are a much better format than any social media. I have 18 social media accounts for business reasons mostly. If I can use it from my computer I'll join.

Following anything in a Facebook group that has a lot of users is a pain.

SpencerWhite

When a person creates a new whatsapp account or sees that 20 thousand people have already subscribed to the account, the first thing he thinks is: "I wish I had seen it before."

JPG

An excellent description of what is wrong with facebook and it's disciples.

dusty

JPG wrote An excellent description of what is wrong with facebook and it's disciples.

Without spending significant time on FB (especially something like the Shopsmith FB sites) is's all just unsubstantiated opinion. I disliked FB for years but now find the shop related sites quite interesting and there is no shortage of diehard Shopsmith users,

Flickle

RFGuy wrote
JPG wrote Facebook is for old fogies!???

Old fogies kids maybe.

But then to toungsters, them kids are OLD!
YES, FB is for chronologically advanced individuals! If you don't believe me, you can look up the stats for it (see link below). I am technically Gen X, but I don't have a FB account. I have borrowed a family members account a few times to check out the Shopsmith groups on FB. ALL of my family (including parents) have FB accounts and they are all older than me. Those younger than Gen X have largely shunned FB in lieu of other social media platforms. This proves out with my kids and their friends as well. They don't use FB or IG.

P.S. IF you don't use FB then you can consider yourself a "young" person by association. :D

I have to agree - all I see on FB now is pictures of peoples kids. Not necessarily "older" folks but doesn't seem like many young folks are on there. I would push back on IG though - every teen seems to be on there.

dusty

If you really believe that the youngsters are not using FB you have browsed FB very little. Open up (join) a few of the FB groups and you will find the younger generations very well represented.

Now, having entered this conversation I must admit that my exposure to FB is very controlled. I have membership in five groups (3 Shopsmith and 2 RV related) and that will probably never be more.

I am skeptical about social media in general and that includes the Shopsmith Forum. Just pay attention to the long, never ending list of "new members" who never post about anything.

RFGuy

dusty wrote If you really believe that the youngsters are not using FB you have browsed FB very little. Open up (join) a few of the FB groups and you will find the younger generations very well represented.

Dusty,

Did you even read the statistics that I posted??? Only 2% of teens use FB. Now 2% of the 25M teenage population in the US is still 500k teens using FB. So, yes Dusty, you are seeing a "few" teens using FB, but for the rest of teens it is far, far, far from their preferred platform. Obviously those 500,000 teens are clearly old souls since they use FB. :D

beeg

dusty wrote I am skeptical about social media in general and that includes the Shopsmith Forum. Just pay attention to the long, never ending list of "new members" who never post about anything.

12381 members. 5286 have at least ONE post.

JPG

And essentially 100% of the spammers post. :>(

beeg

JPG wrote And essentially 100% of the spammers post. :>(

if YOU MEAN WHAT i THINK YOU MEAN. 99.2% of the spammers have 0 posts.

JPG

Correct either way. Before/after.

edma194

I understand spanmers are annoying, but they are also easy to spot and ignore. Sometimes, as happened here recently, a legitimate post looks like spam.

OTOH, social media is full of trolls who just want to start arguments, hijack threads, and all of those things on social media that have names i don't know, but that's the issue that concerns me more than spammers. So I've never been on Facebook, don't want to be at all, and my wife scans the for sale pages for me (or says she is, she might not tell me about every deal in my area I'd be tempted to buy).

rlkeeney

Don't join a Facebook group that isn't moderated. Good moderation does not allow topic posts. You get a warning and your post gets deleted. The second offense gets you banned.

dusty

RFGuy wrote
dusty wrote If you really believe that the youngsters are not using FB you have browsed FB very little. Open up (join) a few of the FB groups and you will find the younger generations very well represented.
Dusty,

Did you even read the statistics that I posted??? Only 2% of teens use FB. Now 2% of the 25M teenage population in the US is still 500k teens using FB. So, yes Dusty, you are seeing a "few" teens using FB, but for the rest of teens it is far, far, far from their preferred platform. Obviously those 500,000 teens are clearly old souls since they use FB. :D

Yeah, I looked at the data but I don't view most of it as applicable for discussion when we are talking about generational users of woodworking equipment. Besides, it is data presented by "social media" for the benefit of "social media". Yes, there are other more popular sites but I don't use any of them.

dusty

beeg wrote
JPG wrote And essentially 100% of the spammers post. :>(
if YOU MEAN WHAT i THINK YOU MEAN. 99.2% of the spammers have 0 posts.

The new members who post spam can be dealt with. It is the new member who joins (gains access to the forum) and then seems to disappear into nowhere that concern me. Why are they here and what are they up to? What data are they collecting and what might they do with it when they have it?

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