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DMcCam

Well, I managed to set my Mark 5 up as instructed and took off the top housing (thanks again JPG). Looking down into the machine, I could see that the speed control arm has a few problems.

The metal loop from the idler sheave had broken off and there was obvious 'tinkering' by the former owner. The whole unit will have to be replaced. The big issue is that the SS is in the slow setting, with the idler and control sheaves frozen on the idler shaft are fully closed together. The belts look very good so I don't really want to damage them.

My guess is that I'll need to remove the floating sheave from the motor to get the drive belt off. Then I can remove the motor to get to open the area up. I've looked over the documentation and this unit looks to have a sheave clip or retaining ring under the poly V belt (or gilmer). I'll have to remove the drive sleeve assembly to gain access to it? Is this correct?

Also is there a best way to free up idler and control sheaves while they are on the shaft? If I can do this it would make the whole thing a little easier. Then again, I'm going to tear the whole thing down anyway. I just don't want to cause further damage.

Thank you in advance,

Dave

wa2crk

If the small metal loop is off the control sheave it is quite possible that the small bearing in the control sheave is frozen. If that is the case, then the control sheave will have to be removed for repair. If that proves to be the case you might as well go over the entire machine and replace/repair anything that needs attention and then it will last about 30 more years.

Bill V

JPG

I am replying to your post here http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&p=182100#p182100

It needs a thread of its own.

Oulle1960

Hello every one, Oulle here..I am here after such a long time. I had forgot my old account log in details due to some busy schedule... Hope that we all going to have best time here..

bn3022

I'm new to the forum so I'm not sure if this requires a new thread or not. I ressurected my old greenie about four or five years ago and put in new belts and a quil rebuild. I did the caster upgrade as well, which makes things a lot more enjoyable.

I have the PTO band saw, jointer, scroll saw, and sanding disc. I really like the band saw, but haven't used the other tools yet.

I'm looking for some guidance on what my next upgrade would make the most sense. I'm thinking an upgrade from the old 3/4 HP motor to a new 1 1/8 HP motor would make the most sense before upgrading to the larger 510 or 520 tables?

I'm also wondering if it's OK to run my 500 off of a 20 amp circuit?

billmayo

A sharp saw blade and a good alignment is the first things needed to be done. I found the 3/4 HP motor would do 99% of the tasks I wanted accomplished. I did found that the higher HP motor would be helpful for doing large amounts of hard wood sawing. A 1 1/8 HP motor upgrade would be far down my list of improvements after upgrading to the larger tables.

bn3022

Thanks for the quick reply. I actually can accomplish most of what I set out to do with my old 500. It may be good advice to take your lead and get the most out of what I have and fine tunning it for maximum performance. I feel that I'm just beginning to know my way around a Shop Smith. As I mentioned I've already reworked the headstock and the quill and have upgraded to the better tires on the band saw so now I know it wasn't time wasted. It was great fun doing it as well.

I also have the book "PowerTool Woodworking For Everyone" and am finding it a great read. It'starting to open my eyes to what a versatile machine the Shop Smith is. I'm already finding ways to use it on a little med. cabinet job I'm doing for someone.

It'cool knowing that there's a SS community out there willing to share their knowledge. Thanks again.

Ken

bn3022

I' sure this has been covered somewhere before, but what is the best way to get at the sheaves to lube them? On my 1956 greenie I have a small observation port ( at least that's what I think it is) that could possibly be used for access with a long necked oil can or similar. As far as I can see the other approach would be to remove the cowling and it's six screws from the left end of the headstock and have at it. I'd just like to know what some of you veterans do to keep your machine properly lubed.

Ken Thompson

JPG

With 6 screws on the belt cover, you have an "A" headstock.

That means no access hole under the logo on the back side and originally no oil holes in the sheave hub.

A bit of trouble, but IMHO only way to adequately oil it is to not only remove the belt cover, but to also drop the motor pan(with motor).

This is more easily done by raising to vertical and inserting the main table into the carriage from what is normally the bottom of the carriage. Then the table can be positioned to rest the motor and pan on the table, and you than have easy access to all that needs oil.

There is no such thing as over oiling it as long as the oil gets to where it is needed.

bn3022

Thanks for the info JPG. I did put in new belts and lubed it about three summers ago when I got the old 500 so I figure it might be due for some oil. It hasn't gotten heavy use so I think I'm OK. At least now I know how it's done.

Ken

beeg

It should be lube about every ten hours with about 6 to 8 drops of oil.

moiramph

Look into our new program for "Getting Started with your Shopsmith".

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/started_email_signup.htm

JPG

moiramph wroteLook into our new program for "Getting Started with your Shopsmith".

http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/started_email_signup.htm

Added that link to the stickey!

RichardS

Dave,

We just bought a house in Somersett (Reno) and I'll be living back and forth between Henderson and Reno for the next few months, but will be moving my Shopsmith up there at some point. I'd sure like to be in contact with other Shopsmith owners in Reno. Do you know of others? RichardS at schori@cox.net.

RBasye75

Thank you so much for the links! I just bought a '56 greenie from a friend. I'm not sure how long he's had it sitting in his shop so it's probably best to just take it all apart and clean/lube it up before even plugging it in. I'm researching as much as I can so that we can get it up and running soon... lots of home improvement projects coming up as the weather starts getting nice :) The info is greatly appreciated, especially for those of us with vintage units.

Tad

Hoping for the benefit of you all's experience. I just bought a shopsmith on craigslist it is a mark 5 510. it was all in factory boxes and although it is 22 years old it has never even been plugged in and no manual I sent away for one. my question is will it show me how to put it together or can I get that info some where else. p.s. I sent the head sock to have new bearings and belts and to get oiled.

JPG

Tad wroteHoping for the benefit of you all's experience. I just bought a shopsmith on craigslist it is a mark 5 510. it was all in factory boxes and although it is 22 years old it has never even been plugged in and no manual I sent away for one. my question is will it show me how to put it together or can I get that info some where else. p.s. I sent the head sock to have new bearings and belts and to get oiled.

yes

LRBF

My father-in-law bought me a model 10ER which I only received on Tuesday if this week. I haven't had time yet to start going over it to see what needs attention. It has a little bit of rust on it and could definitely use a good lubing. Honestly, I have no idea where to start, but I have noticed some pieces are missing. I need the blade insert, and a fence to start, plus I'm not sure what is supposed to be on the plate for the disc sander, and the mitre gauge is missing. I'm excited to have this tool and want to get it to like new condition before I start using it. Could I get a few suggestions on where to start and where to buy the missing pieces.

"Little Red Barn Farm"

everettdavis

LRBF wroteMy father-in-law bought me a model 10ER which I only received on Tuesday if this week. I haven't had time yet to start going over it to see what needs attention. It has a little bit of rust on it and could definitely use a good lubing. Honestly, I have no idea where to start, but I have noticed some pieces are missing. I need the blade insert, and a fence to start, plus I'm not sure what is supposed to be on the plate for the disc sander, and the mitre gauge is missing. I'm excited to have this tool and want to get it to like new condition before I start using it. Could I get a few suggestions on where to start and where to buy the missing pieces.

"Little Red Barn Farm"

Welcome to the Family....

I would suggest that you create a New Topic post in the Maintenance and Repair thread so that your individual project doesn't get blended into a host of other questions and answers.

This will enable forum members to specifically address individual questions in your journey, and create a thread where you can post pictures of the issues and the progress of your journey.

That said, it doesn't mean someone will not go down a bunny trail and temporarily hijack your thread, but it will re-center as others weigh in.

To your specific questions Mickyd's "Everything Mark 5 / V - Technical info, documentation, links" has tons of info and his restoration thread for his own 10ER is a great road-map.

You may also like some documentation to help you in your journey. In "Shopsmith Large Format Drawings, Illustrations and More" under the link My Google Drive you will find much on the 10E & 10ER including fully restored PDF's of the Preliminary Manual, the 10E Owner's Guide, the 10ER Owner's Guide and a specific document titled Shopsmith [Magna] 10E to 10ER Production Changes through the years.

One of the first things in determining what you have missing can best be evaluated once you determine what you have in relation to the changes or upgrades that you have.

It will help you find the bits and pieces on eBay that might benefit your restoration, for as you will find soon enough, some folks there are selling parts on machines they are disassembling, but don't truly know what they have.

Good luck! You have an interesting father-in-law. Is he a Shopsmith owner? This could be a Father/Son In-Law bonding project.

I look forward to hearing and seeing more.

Everett

Rich

I have 150 posts to make for an old victorian.porch so in need of help on any solutions for replication fixtures needed to run prefect replacements

Best if possible to buy a lsthe replicator the adapt it to its model

Anyone have any ideas?

Rich

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