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Back at the shop move...

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robinson46176 wroteThose cleats are big hooks. My pictures don't show it too well. The second picture on this page shows the concept better but mine are a little different (simpler) than his. I saw no reason to make it as tight as he did for my needs. My wall part and tool bracket part are identical (just reversed). The 2 hooks over lap an inch.

My spacers are both 7/16" X 1.5" OSB and my "hooks" (face parts) are both 1/4" X2.5" OSB.

http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/shop/archive/2009/08/04/hyper-organize-your-shop.aspx

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My slip off question was the chop saw slipping off the two arms. I looks like it is just sitting there with no restraints visible.

robinson46176

JPG40504 wroteMy slip off question was the chop saw slipping off the two arms. I looks like it is just sitting there with no restraints visible.

Glued and screwed... :)

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robinson46176

I've been working outside a good bit this week but I did manage to get this shelf hung and a plug-in strip from a ceiling mounted receptacle (also on a cleat).

I love yard / garage sales... I bought this shelf a couple of years ago for a $1. I can't make one for that. 🙂 I have several others I have bought the same way and a nice shallow about 3'x4' pine cabinet w/door I paid a couple of bucks for.

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This stuff is just hanging there "for now" until I get more wall up and start laying things out more. Right now I am just trying to get more small stuff moved and things sorted out and grouped together.

robinson46176

Still crawling along...

Here I am mounting a hanger cleat (glue and screws) on the back of a small parts cabinet.

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Here are two of them hanging on a panel, not in their permanent home but ready to be moved anywhere in the shop. I still have about 3 more of the larger ones unused yet. I bought them on a special deal at Wal-Mart maybe 2 years ago. One reason I bought several was because they matched the Shopsmith dark red so well (No not purple 😃).

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Here is tool panel I just put up. I still have about 8 or 10 of these 2' x 4' .25" tempered pegboard panels that were bought on a deal maybe 20 years ago. I will make up maybe 5 or 6 more on cleats to spot at various locations around the shop. Since they tend to carry a good bit of weight I mounted the cleat on the top of the back using four .25" countersunk head stove bolts (in addition to Titebond II and .75" air staples) with the nuts out on the front. I will probably completely shuffle the layouts a half dozen times before I am satisfied with it. :rolleyes:

That is one of many reasons I like this wall system so much. 🙂

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billmeyer

Farmer,

I really like your wall cleat system. I must steal this idea somehow!

Thanks.

Bill

robinson46176

billmeyer wroteFarmer,

I really like your wall cleat system. I must steal this idea somehow!

Thanks.

Bill

Go ahead and steal it, I did... :) :)

My version is probably much less than a fourth of the other guys cost. I wanted something that works good but it had to be cheap. Too many other things I want to buy to put big bucks in a utilitarian item. :rolleyes:

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heathicus

Francis, what thickness is the OSB panels on the walls? I was looking at wall paneling for my shop on my last trip to Lowes and 1/4" OSB has a nice price point, but looked pretty flimsy.

(I thought the tag in the store said < $4.00, but looking at their web site now it says $6.18).

robinson46176

heathicus wroteFrancis, what thickness is the OSB panels on the walls? I was looking at wall paneling for my shop on my last trip to Lowes and 1/4" OSB has a nice price point, but looked pretty flimsy.

(I thought the tag in the store said < $4.00, but looking at their web site now it says $6.18).

7/16" from Lowes about $6 - $7 a sheet.

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nuhobby

Hey Farmer,

Here's a guy doing some serious equipment moving. Couldn't quite "bust down" his gear like a Shopsmith, so he had to have a very cooperative missus in the kitchen:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/transformers-phase-converters-vfd/so-im-working-jig-grinder-my-basement-242137/

robinson46176

nuhobby wroteHey Farmer,

Here's a guy doing some serious equipment moving. Couldn't quite "bust down" his gear like a Shopsmith, so he had to have a very cooperative missus in the kitchen:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/transformers-phase-converters-vfd/so-im-working-jig-grinder-my-basement-242137/

My wife is normally very cooperative and quick to help but in a mess like that the divorce papers would have already been served... :D

I gather that he did not have a space outside where he could excavate a hole like I did? Of course doing it the way he did all activity was out of sight and he may be violating 37 planning and zoning laws big time.

BTW, I still haven't cut my outside door yet. I decided to let the several heavy pieces sit in the old shop until the temps are staying up for sure and it wasn't raining every other day. I'm probably pretty safe for any time now. I have enough of my SS stuff moved to do what ever I want as far as working on the shop and I am not working on any furniture type projects right now, just the shop.

I'll have our son, Scott, bring home a big diamond saw from work and cut the opening out. I'll have to construct a little closet sized room out of poly to keep the dust out of everything. Its not too bad if you have a garden sprayer full of water and keep flooding the cut as you go but the more of the grit I can keep out the shop the better.

I did make a design change :rolleyes: I kept thinking about things I want to build and decided to increase the door from 4' to 6'. Too many things were going to be almost 5' wide. :rolleyes: We were talking just this morning about installing a patio roof out over the "pit" coming from the edge of the regular house roof. The pit roof will be the white corrugated fiberglass panels on a redwood frame. It will probably end up being about a 12' extension out and about 16' along the house (like a carport). It will have an eve trough on it and a downspout system to shunt all of that water out to a nearby drain tile.

I'm ready for spring...

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camerio

Are'nt we all (ready for spring) ?

Here in the north, we have about 4 foot of snow and forecast is for more. We calculate that up to March 17th (St-Patrick's Day) we are still in for a few winter storms, but boy do I wish that spring was here already ...

I very much like to read this thread, thanks Farmer for it and anyone who reacts to it.

robinson46176

camerio wroteAre'nt we all (ready for spring) ?

Here in the north, we have about 4 foot of snow and forecast is for more. We calculate that up to March 17th (St-Patrick's Day) we are still in for a few winter storms, but boy do I wish that spring was here already ...

I very much like to read this thread, thanks Farmer for it and anyone who reacts to it.

Now that we have just exited a short cold snap (24° last night) we are supposed to run about 50°+ daily highs with 30° to 40° lows. I can live with that fine. :) As long as the horse water does not need heat and the sunny days out number the gloomy ones I'm good.

I am REALLY enjoying the warm wood shop. I need to spend a lot of puttering time cleaning and refurbishing my tools. Not all but a fair number have suffered light surface rust over the years from sweating as temperatures have yo-yo'd in previous shops. Shiny metal in the basement on the other hand just pretty much stays shiny metal. :cool: The moisture formed by condensation would eventually break down the paste wax on stuff. I need to do a lot of work with the wire wheel and in a few cases some polishing cloth and the buffer. I enjoy doing that and bringing tools back but only once. I used to have all of my planes all shiny but now they look bad again. Not really damaged, they just don't look nice. Now I know that once cleaned they will generally stay that way. I have always remembered how nice the stuff in the school shops stayed and we did almost nothing to protect them.

It is also nice that if I want to do a bit of that kind of clean up it does not matter if it is below 0° or not, I can just walk down there and do it in comfort. If I only want to work a half hour or an hour (TV sucks some evenings) I can knowing that I don't need to spend 2 hours getting the shop warm enough to work in without gloves. :)

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fredsheldon

and here in Houston we have the opposite problem. Only one day so far this winter below 32 degees. I was sweating in the garage just the other day while doing some work. My problem is going to be how to cool the workplace this summer. We had 95 days of over 100 temps last year :( I have an air conditioner that I used to cool my sailboat by running ducting to the hatch that I might be able to rig to use in my garage if I install some plastic sheeting as temporary walls after backing out the wife's car :D

robinson46176

Well, I finally found out how to get around to moving the rest of my woodshop stuff into the new basement shop. I sold the old one... :eek:

Now we are going nuts getting our now unused house and shop building empty. Not as easy as you might think. :rolleyes:

We sold it to one of our grown daughters (44) after she approached us about buying it. I didn't even know that she was seriously looking at it. They were living in town and wanted to get out in the country.

The rest of the woodshop stuff is the small part of the move. The hard part is all of the tons of misc. "stuff" stored there. We are getting rid of so much crap that 2 auction barns can't keep up with us. :)

I finally cut through the basement wall to get access from the outside for the bigger tools that I had not moved yet. Yesterday I moved my TS-3650 table and two other table saws. Tomorrow I will move my Foley Belsaw planer/molder/ripsaw, my long bed jointer and 3 more Shopsmiths.

I may get this done yet... :D

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robinson46176 wroteWell, I finally found out how to get around to moving the rest of my woodshop stuff into the new basement shop. I sold the old one...

Now we are going nuts getting our now unused house and shop building empty. Not as easy as you might think.

We sold it to one of our grown daughters (44) after she approached us about buying it. I didn't even know that she was seriously looking at it. They were living in town and wanted to get out in the country.

The rest of the woodshop stuff is the small part of the move. The hard part is all of the tons of misc. "stuff" stored there. We are getting rid of so much crap that 2 auction barns can't keep up with us. :)

I finally cut through the basement wall to get access from the outside for the bigger tools that I had not moved yet. Yesterday I moved my TS-3650 table and two other table saws. Tomorrow I will move my Foley Belsaw planer/molder/ripsaw, my long bed jointer and 3 more Shopsmiths.

I may get this done yet...

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Well]good[/U] MVII in Greenwood on E-Bay last month.:D

Do not despair, I will give it a good home!;)

robinson46176

JPG40504 wroteWell]good[/U] MVII in Greenwood on E-Bay last month.:D

Do not despair, I will give it a good home!;)

Are you using it? Was it already house-broken? :)

I am about 20 miles east of Greenwood.

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robinson46176 wroteAre you using it? Was it already house-broken? :)

I am about 20 miles east of Greenwood.

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No, it will be thoroughly refurbed first. It has a bit of minor rust on the base, the medallions(end castings) are damaged, and I was surprised to 'discover' an aluminum cam! Paper work indicates it(the cam) was obtained in 1990 as well as some other parts. It appears to be a casting. The speed range is not correct, so I will be discovering some other issues. The rack has been removed for the usual reason. Motor runs and switch and key interlock work correctly. I will be creating a restoration thread as it develops. I may need help as it goes.

maggeorge

Best of luck with the shop built. I hope your set-up will be what you really, really wanted!

robinson46176

Moved some more stuff to the new basement shop and am just now getting a chance to post a couple of pictures.

I only have a basic smallish "hole" cut in the basement wall to move stuff through but it is working well. The big push here is to get the old shop building empty rather than work on the new shop. I have a couple of solid-top pallets down in the unfinished pit / patio area in front of the "hole" to lower the machines down to. I have a temp but solid ramp from that spot through the hole and down to the basement floor. I have to have the loader fairly high to transport the machines so that I can lower them down to about 5' below ground level. I bought 4 web straps rated at 1,000# each working load and a 3,000# breaking strength. I can adjust the level and position with the ratchets. It is working well but if I were doing it with less deadline (or heaver machines) I would have built a cantilevered gantry of sorts so I could have used a hoist and track. Probably much like this:

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Some may notice that this old Super-M Farmall is missing its grill. It is in the farm shop awaiting a minor straightening after "someone" 🙂 bent it a little loading a piece of very large and awkward farm equipment on a high trailer.

The one picture is my 10-ER and the other my 5 HP Foley Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw.

My wife operated the tractor hydraulics for me as she often has over many years.

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Ed in Tampa

Talking about cranes, my buddy was in the hospital and while visiting him I noticed that each room had a hoist. There were two tracks parallel to the side walls that ran the length of the room. Between them was another rail which carried the carriage.

It looked to me that this crane/hoist could go practically anywhere in the room and putting the hoist right over what needed to be lifted. The tracks were fully encased and looked to be about an inch or so wide about 6 inch high. The hoist assemble itself was fully enclosed but I assumed it could lift a patient so it was probably rated 300+ lbs and hoist travel was at least from floor to some distance above a raised hospital bed.

What caught my eye was the fact it totally finished and didn't look like something massive. I was connected to the ceiling in such a way that looked sturdy but not factory huge.

I have no idea of cost but since each room had one I can't imagine it was all that expensive (however I was in a hospital which tend to spend money like water because they are getting it from health insurance companies but that is another thread). It sure looked like something I would love to have in my garage. I will now keep my eye peeled everytime I see a remodel job in any hospital. I will bet more than one construction guy has one of these in his home shop to pick up various things in the shop.

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