Need some help...

damagi · Post by **damagi** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:34 am

athomas01 wrote:Well... only one way to find out... I went exploring into the unit... took my time and felt my way through it... I mean what the heck... saw a video online! hehe

Here is what I found... I don't know what I'm looking at but I'm sure you will...

Just to be sure - if your gilmer drive setup is as shown in the 3rd photo, then you need to reseat it and/or replace the bearings. The bearing on the left side of where the belt is sitting should be seated into the headstock casting.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:06 pm

damagi wrote:Just to be sure - if your gilmer drive setup is as shown in the 3rd photo, then you need to reseat it and/or replace the bearings. The bearing on the left side of where the belt is sitting should be seated into the headstock casting.

Good Catch! I missed that(too busy looking at the casting).

It is missing the retaining ring! It may be missing the one at the inside end also/,maybe/couldbe.

The casting is indeed a sand-cast early production headstock. Rougher finish wise, but heavier(more aluminum) and IMHO stouter. Not sure, but there may have been an access hole added to the back side. I say that after observing the wear on the paint above the medallion(slips up/down?) and what may be the bottom edge in the pix showing the drive belt.

Inside looks immaculate, so somebody has definitely cleaned it up!

BTW when actually being used, the jointer goes on the end where the bandsaw currently resides.

A word of caution if you take out the idler shaft(the one in the middle), do not over tighten the screw clamping it in place. Those ears will break. Later versions use a screw. split ring lock washer and nut. Our resident expert(Bill Mayo) recommends tightening just to point the lock washer is squeezed flat.

He also recommends adding(tapping) a retaining washer/screw, but I prefer the original retaining brackets(missing from yours), but they require much futzing to get them installed correctly and can fray the gilmer belt if not positioned just right..

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:11 pm

I believe there are some pictures already on the forum that show how the bearing should be seated in the raceway. I'll spend some time later today to see if I can find them -OR- maybe the original poster will beat me to it.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:03 pm

athomas01 wrote:Part III

Now this one was for me... my real time exploded view so I know how to reassemble.

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Whoops! You are also missing the sleeve(and probably the woodruff key).

Another 'exploded' view.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3776&highlight=reassembling

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:16 pm

dusty wrote:I believe there are some pictures already on the forum that show how the bearing should be seated in the raceway. I'll spend some time later today to see if I can find them -OR- maybe the original poster will beat me to it.

These?:D

Although it shows a Poly-v drive it serves to illustrate the Gilmer drive as well.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=40968#post40968

Note it is one of two.

Use the link in the line near the bottom to get to further links.

athomas01 · Post by **athomas01** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:27 pm

damagi wrote:Just to be sure - if your gilmer drive setup is as shown in the 3rd photo, then you need to reseat it and/or replace the bearings. The bearing on the left side of where the belt is sitting should be seated into the headstock casting.

Yep... when assembled again it was seated... so much to learn

athomas01 · Post by **athomas01** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:36 pm

It actually is domed washer... just didn't show up in the photo as the retaining ring as well... the second washer was seated on top of the depth stop dial so didn't show up either... however, I am missing the spring washer and another one that I'm not sure what it's called... one more thing on my to do list!

Also, was not real clear on the download I did last night as to which way the domed washer goes in... flat to center or domed to center...

thank you!

athomas01 · Post by **athomas01** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:53 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]...Inside looks immaculate, so somebody has definitely cleaned it up!

BTW when actually being used, the jointer goes on the end where the bandsaw currently resides.]

I did some cleaning while in there.... and I'm not even going to admit how long it took me to realize that about the jointer!

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:02 pm

athomas01 wrote:I did some cleaning while in there.... and I'm not even going to admit how long it took me to realize that about the jointer!

Hey! All it needs is a flexible shaft to run under the headstock and leg and up to the jointer shaft.

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The large flat washer was probably not there from day one(not to worry about).

But if opportunity occurs, get one!

Let us know how you 'make out' with the 'Magi'. ;>}

athomas01 · Post by **athomas01** » Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:38 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]Hey! All it needs is a flexible shaft to run under the headstock and leg and up to the jointer shaft.

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The large flat washer was probably not there from day one(not to worry about).

But if opportunity occurs, get one!

Let us know how you 'make out' with the 'Magi'. ]

Actually I have two of the connecting shafts... will post pic so I can find out what the differences are and why I would use one over the other... The color and key are there as well... just were not in photo...