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dusty
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I use Firefox and Microsoft Essentials.
Don't use any of this software unless you know what it is going to do for you and to you.
I have CCleaner and used it once. CCleaner eliminated a bunch of cookies that I did not want to delete so I have not used it again.
The computer in the shop is configured essentially the same but it also has Malwarebytes installed. That computer was given to me and it had a lot of stuff on it that had been downloaded. I cleaned most of it out with the help of Malwarebytes.
I do not download software that is offered to me unsolicited; that is to say, if I did not go looking for it on my own I do not not download it.
When inclined to browse the internet, I do it from the shop computer because there are NO personal files on that computer. No inventories, no pictures, no financials, no emails - if it gets invaded, it will simply get wiped clean. I do have Autocad and Sketchup out there but they are on a HDD separate from the OS (easily isolated by unplugging).
Don't use any of this software unless you know what it is going to do for you and to you.
I have CCleaner and used it once. CCleaner eliminated a bunch of cookies that I did not want to delete so I have not used it again.
The computer in the shop is configured essentially the same but it also has Malwarebytes installed. That computer was given to me and it had a lot of stuff on it that had been downloaded. I cleaned most of it out with the help of Malwarebytes.
I do not download software that is offered to me unsolicited; that is to say, if I did not go looking for it on my own I do not not download it.
When inclined to browse the internet, I do it from the shop computer because there are NO personal files on that computer. No inventories, no pictures, no financials, no emails - if it gets invaded, it will simply get wiped clean. I do have Autocad and Sketchup out there but they are on a HDD separate from the OS (easily isolated by unplugging).
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
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Ed in Tampa
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- Location: North Tampa Bay area Florida
If it were me I and I had a young child running the computer I would go to one of the filtered ISP's hard to do on high speed cable but if you are on DSL or dial up that is the only way I would run. Protects little eyes from things you probably don't want them to see.
Short of that I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malware.
I had Norton and McAfee and both tanked my system once or twice. Also had CA virus protection (free through my provider) took my system to it's knees.
Formated my disk did a clean install and CA took it to it's knees again. Removed and lived happily ever after.
As far as browser everyone has their favorite but IE consistantly comes out on top or very near the top. Use 7 or higher. 9 still in testing is said to clean house. We will see.
One last thing I would put the computer where I could watch my daughter as she is using it. Just way too many jerks out there to let her young mind try to decide what is safe and not.
There are way too many stories of young people be lured off or getting involved with people they know nothing about.
Short of that I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malware.
I had Norton and McAfee and both tanked my system once or twice. Also had CA virus protection (free through my provider) took my system to it's knees.
Formated my disk did a clean install and CA took it to it's knees again. Removed and lived happily ever after.
As far as browser everyone has their favorite but IE consistantly comes out on top or very near the top. Use 7 or higher. 9 still in testing is said to clean house. We will see.
One last thing I would put the computer where I could watch my daughter as she is using it. Just way too many jerks out there to let her young mind try to decide what is safe and not.
There are way too many stories of young people be lured off or getting involved with people they know nothing about.
Ed in Tampa
Stay out of trouble!
Stay out of trouble!
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dusty
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This is a matter of opinion. I avoid IE as much as is possible though I do keep it loaded and up to date.Ed in Tampa wrote:If it were me I and I had a young child running the computer I would go to one of the filtered ISP's hard to do on high speed cable but if you are on DSL or dial up that is the only way I would run. Protects little eyes from things you probably don't want them to see.
Short of that I use Microsoft Security Essentials and Malware.
I had Norton and McAfee and both tanked my system once or twice. Also had CA virus protection (free through my provider) took my system to it's knees.
Formated my disk did a clean install and CA took it to it's knees again. Removed and lived happily ever after.
As far as browser everyone has their favorite but IE consistantly comes out on top or very near the top. Use 7 or higher. 9 still in testing is said to clean house. We will see.
One last thing I would put the computer where I could watch my daughter as she is using it. Just way too many jerks out there to let her young mind try to decide what is safe and not.
There are way too many stories of young people be lured off or getting involved with people they know nothing about.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
Dusty
Sent from my Dell XPS using Firefox.
I've use Avast anti-virus software for a few years and have had no problems. I'm also using ZoneAlarm firewall software and have had no problems with it either. I'm using the free versions of both. They both have upgraded versions that are available for a fee, but I've been happy with the free versions.
Art in Western Pennsylvania
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bobgroh
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- Location: Just east of Kansas City, Missouri
I have done a fair amount of volunteer IT work for the non-profit that my daughter works for. One of her many responsibilities is keeping a herd of PCs running - PCs that are placed all over the area at retirement homes, shelters, low income housing areas, etc. So these PCs get viruses a lot!
On new computers, she has me do several things (as a result of much experience coping!):
1. Use Microsoft's Security Essentials (it's free!!)
2. Install Faronics Deep Freeze (don't know the cost for individuals) - Google them and take a look. Basically Deep Freeze locks away a copy of the system and then completely restores the computer to it's starting state (i.e. when the Administrator first 'froze' it) every time it is turned on. Which means any virus's, etc are just wiped out. The administrator can unfreeze the system, load new software, etc and 'freeze' it again. Works like a champ.
3. Install Norton's Safety Minder. This is a free program which monitors the computer and will provide, for users that the computer administrator designates, a record of sites accessed, etc.
One last word - the only way I have found reliably fix virus plagued computers is to completely restore the operating system. All those other programs (Malware,etc) sort of work but not 100%. I need 100%. After system restoration, I do the 3 steps mentioned above.
On new computers, she has me do several things (as a result of much experience coping!):
1. Use Microsoft's Security Essentials (it's free!!)
2. Install Faronics Deep Freeze (don't know the cost for individuals) - Google them and take a look. Basically Deep Freeze locks away a copy of the system and then completely restores the computer to it's starting state (i.e. when the Administrator first 'froze' it) every time it is turned on. Which means any virus's, etc are just wiped out. The administrator can unfreeze the system, load new software, etc and 'freeze' it again. Works like a champ.
3. Install Norton's Safety Minder. This is a free program which monitors the computer and will provide, for users that the computer administrator designates, a record of sites accessed, etc.
One last word - the only way I have found reliably fix virus plagued computers is to completely restore the operating system. All those other programs (Malware,etc) sort of work but not 100%. I need 100%. After system restoration, I do the 3 steps mentioned above.
Bob Groh
Blue Springs, Missouri (just east of Kansas City, MO)
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1984 SS Mark V updated to model 510
1994 SS Mark V updated to model 520
SS SPT's: Bandsaw
Other tools:routers, Bosch router table, Craftsman 6" jointer, Steel City 12" bench planer, Porter Cable 7" power saw, and too much other stuff (not really - just kidding!!)
Blue Springs, Missouri (just east of Kansas City, MO)
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1984 SS Mark V updated to model 510
1994 SS Mark V updated to model 520
SS SPT's: Bandsaw
Other tools:routers, Bosch router table, Craftsman 6" jointer, Steel City 12" bench planer, Porter Cable 7" power saw, and too much other stuff (not really - just kidding!!)
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JPG
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- Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)
I made the mistake of allowing a 'fixer' to 'cleanup'. Ever since, task manager consists of the LAN/Wireless graphs only! Once opened, there is no way to stop or remove from screen.
Anybody know where the registry key to identify loading task manager, and what it should be loading via Ctrl-Alt-Delete?
I know regedit!
Anybody know where the registry key to identify loading task manager, and what it should be loading via Ctrl-Alt-Delete?
I know regedit!
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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robinson46176
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A grandson was using my wife's little Acer Aspire with windows XP about a week ago and it bombed out with the phony MS Security 2012 update virus. I finally got into AVG kind of back door and ran a scan. It found 3 corrupted files and "fixed" them. After that I could not get it to execute any exe files at all. I puttered with it off and on for 2 days but I have been running Linux on all of my other ones long enough that I forget a lot of what I used to know (it only takes seconds). 
I finally said #$%& &%$# and did a complete fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 which takes no time at all and it is fine. We now have 5 (3 of them laptops) running Ubuntu, one running OS-X (old iMac) and an ancient Dell laptop running Win 95 (only used for some writing). I will likely install either DSL (Damn Small Linux) {"really":)} or Puppy Linux on it.
Linux maybe isn't for everybody but for now I will use nothing else...
All of those crap problems I fought with for years just went away... Why should I pay big money for a product that is not as good as what I can get for free. I just don't see the logic.
I may do a dual boot install of Ubuntu and Win-XP on one fairly fast desktop just in case I find a Windows software item that I just need to be able to run but frankly I have not found anything that I would want that I cannot find a Linux equivalent for. I realize that others may have specialized stuff that requires them to run on Windows but even if I get in that situation I will do it with a dual boot system and run daily stuff on Linux.
Over the last couple of years every time I had to boot a Windows system I sat there saying "My god, hoist the anchor and finish already"...
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I finally said #$%& &%$# and did a complete fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 which takes no time at all and it is fine. We now have 5 (3 of them laptops) running Ubuntu, one running OS-X (old iMac) and an ancient Dell laptop running Win 95 (only used for some writing). I will likely install either DSL (Damn Small Linux) {"really":)} or Puppy Linux on it.
Linux maybe isn't for everybody but for now I will use nothing else...
All of those crap problems I fought with for years just went away... Why should I pay big money for a product that is not as good as what I can get for free. I just don't see the logic.I may do a dual boot install of Ubuntu and Win-XP on one fairly fast desktop just in case I find a Windows software item that I just need to be able to run but frankly I have not found anything that I would want that I cannot find a Linux equivalent for. I realize that others may have specialized stuff that requires them to run on Windows but even if I get in that situation I will do it with a dual boot system and run daily stuff on Linux.
Over the last couple of years every time I had to boot a Windows system I sat there saying "My god, hoist the anchor and finish already"...
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
Farmer,robinson46176 wrote:I may do a dual boot install of Ubuntu and Win-XP on one fairly fast desktop just in case I find a Windows software item that I just need to be able to run but frankly I have not found anything that I would want that I cannot find a Linux equivalent for. I realize that others may have specialized stuff that requires them to run on Windows but even if I get in that situation I will do it with a dual boot system and run daily stuff on Linux.
Over the last couple of years every time I had to boot a Windows system I sat there saying "My god, hoist the anchor and finish already"...
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You might think about running XP as a virtual machine in VirtualBox or maybe VMware. VirtualBox is in the Ubuntu repositories and has been working very well for me over the past year or so. I really like VMware Server but it was getting horrid to maintain on my Lucid Lynx install; I was able to import my VMware disk files directly into VirtualBox with very little problem.
Unless you absolutely have to connect to some internal piece of hardware or need fast 3-D stuff (games or maybe some CAD), a virtual machine may do the trick for you. Other than an older dual boot netbook, I haven't had a bare-metal Windows install in my house since late 99 or early 00 and have no regrets.
Roy