Shop building questions

major_bob · Post by **major_bob** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:58 am

Francis,
I too have unused space in my basement (75% is finished living space) and from a heating/cooling standpoint I agree. My concern has always been the dust control problem created by moving my shop from the garage into the basement. I would have to seal the room pretty tight to prevent dust migration and that would negate the heating/cooling advantages.

My plans are to do more and more work with hand tools. Leaving the power tools for rough dimensioning only. Once I become more "hand tool" proficient, perhaps the move to the basement will make sense.

bob

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:16 pm

Between the rain and having to go into work on my days off (was supposed to be off all this and next week, but had to work Saturday, Monday, and Tuesday and it rained Sunday, and today, so Wednesday has been the only day I've had to work on it) I got the sub floor finished.

For braces between the floor joists, I used landscape timbers. My father-in-law's other son-in-law's mom works for a timber company and they get bundles of those timbers really cheap. He brought a bundle to my FIL a while back and they have just been sitting there under a tarp since. I was afraid I might run short of 2x lumber, so I asked and was told I could use as many landscape timbers as I wanted. I think it took 24 and I barely dented the stack.

I set up a little jig with my miter saw.

144 of those...

By the time I got to the end it was too dark to take a picture (I had to have my wife hold a flashlight so I could drive my last few nails) so that one was from when I took a break about half way through.

Hopefully the rain will stop and I can finish the floor tomorrow.

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:11 am

Looking great to me.

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mbcabinetmaker · Post by **mbcabinetmaker** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:34 am

heathicus wrote:Between the rain and having to go into work on my days off (was supposed to be off all this and next week, but had to work Saturday, Monday, and Tuesday and it rained Sunday, and today, so Wednesday has been the only day I've had to work on it) I got the sub floor finished.

For braces between the floor joists, I used landscape timbers. My father-in-law's other son-in-law's mom works for a timber company and they get bundles of those timbers really cheap. He brought a bundle to my FIL a while back and they have just been sitting there under a tarp since. I was afraid I might run short of 2x lumber, so I asked and was told I could use as many landscape timbers as I wanted. I think it took 24 and I barely dented the stack.

I set up a little jig with my miter saw.

144 of those...

By the time I got to the end it was too dark to take a picture (I had to have my wife hold a flashlight so I could drive my last few nails) so that one was from when I took a break about half way through.

Hopefully the rain will stop and I can finish the floor tomorrow.

Well now Heath are you going to do woodworking in that building or work on Bulldozers?

robinson46176 · Post by **robinson46176** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:51 am

major_bob wrote:Francis,
I too have unused space in my basement (75% is finished living space) and from a heating/cooling standpoint I agree. My concern has always been the dust control problem created by moving my shop from the garage into the basement. I would have to seal the room pretty tight to prevent dust migration and that would negate the heating/cooling advantages.

My plans are to do more and more work with hand tools. Leaving the power tools for rough dimensioning only. Once I become more "hand tool" proficient, perhaps the move to the basement will make sense.

bob

While I will seal the dividing wall well especially up along the top between the joist I will also have a lot of air movement going on. The very strong blower (not original) on the wood furnace runs 24-7 and its intake is in the shop area. Its intake box will be triple filtered with 3 different kinds of filter media then filtered again in the old gas furnace/air handler. Those blowers are also what handles the air for cooling.
There will also be one of those fuzzy pleated filters in the lower part of the door into the shop so the pressures can balance out between the shop and the rest of the house with out trying to push dusty air through the cracks.
Perhaps the biggest chance for a dust leak will be the one way pet door I plan for the wall so that any cat accidentally locked in the shop can get out but not back into it.
I have a Penn St. 1.5HP dust collector and a HF 2HP collector and expect to install a very effective DC system. I also will have an over-head air scrubber running full time with a high volume squirrel-cage blower.
Heating and cooling air is expensive. Moving it around is surprisingly cheap.

BTW, I am a little hand tool oriented and becoming more so. I just love machinery

But I don't always have to use it. I like to try to strike a balance.

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dusty · Post by **dusty** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:13 am

[quote="mbcabinetmaker"]Well now Heath are you going to do woodworking in that building or work on Bulldozers?

]

Looking good. Those cross members should definitely do the trick. The price was right as well.

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:57 pm

Got the floor done today. The Shopsmith legs/tubes will become a miter gauge/planer stand. I couldn't help going ahead and setting it on there to start getting a feel for potential layouts.

More rain on the way, so I covered it with a tarp and I'm done until after Christmas.

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 5:58 pm

[quote="mbcabinetmaker"]Well now Heath are you going to do woodworking in that building or work on Bulldozers?

]

No bulldozers, but perhaps the occasional Harley.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:53 pm

I really think you need to add support pillars out on the edges; at the very least on the four corners. In addition to those, I would add probable four more evenly spaced around the deck.

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:27 pm

[quote="dusty"]I really think you need to add support pillars out on the edges]

I do plan on doing that. I'm just out of suitable blocking material right now. I'll pick up some more concrete blocks on my next trip into town or see if my dad has any treated lumber scraps when I go out there for Christmas. I was planning 6 blocks along each side.