Mineral Spirits, Acetone, Denatured Alcohol?
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Mineral Spirits, Acetone, Denatured Alcohol?
As it pertains to cleaning and maintaining our machines, what is the difference between those chemicals? Is any one better suited for the cleaning task than the others? Any alternatives that should be considered instead (such as Kerosene)?
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
I wood think that mineral spirits wood be the cheapest and safest to use.
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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JPG
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Whichever you have a surplus of. Outdoor use is recommended. I like lacquer thinner as a last 'rinse'( Acetone a close second choice!).heathicus wrote:As it pertains to cleaning and maintaining our machines, what is the difference between those chemicals? Is any one better suited for the cleaning task than the others? Any alternatives that should be considered instead (such as Kerosene)?
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robinson46176
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beeg wrote:I wood think that mineral spirits wood be the cheapest and safest to use.
Over the years in a number of occupations I have used a wide range of solvents, some really scary...
For doing Shopsmith work I will vote mineral spirits with beeg...
For something really hard to cut I keep spray cans of carb cleaner. Use outdoors...
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
i love it
I love carb cleaner (in the right application), spray on and it seems to take off the gnarliest junk and dries without any apparent residue.
I think the question to be asked is "what are you cleaning?" Each has its own place.
I think the question to be asked is "what are you cleaning?" Each has its own place.
'55 Greenie #292284 (Mar-55), '89 SS 510 #020989, Mark VII #408551 (sold 10/14/12), SS Band Saw, (SS 500 #36063 (May-79) now gone to son-in-law as of 11-11), Magna bandsaw, Magna jointer 16185 (May-54), Magna belt sander SS28712 (Dec-82), Magna jigsaw SS4397 (Dec-78), SS biscuit joiner, Zyliss (knockoff) vise, 20+ hand planes, 60s Craftsman tablesaw, CarbaTec mini-lathe, and the usual pile of tools. Hermit of the Hills Woodworks, a hillbilly in the foothills of the Ozarks, scraping by.
It really depends on what you are cleaning. Back in my chemistry set days the combination of acetone and denatured alcholol was considered the closest thing to a universal solvent. Mineral spirits works great on many paint, dye, grease products. But you must be careful with what will be cleaned off and what will be dissolved. The acetone will damage many plastic products. Alcohol will affect shellac based finishes. So like it says in the instructions (like I read instructions 
) try it on a small hidden area first.
Naptha is another great Mineral Spirit type solvent, it flashes off almost immediately; however, it has a low ignition point.
Perhaps because I have a chemistry background I tend to grab an approprate solvent on the first or second try. But all solvents are good, if they are being used on the correct products.
) try it on a small hidden area first. Naptha is another great Mineral Spirit type solvent, it flashes off almost immediately; however, it has a low ignition point.
Perhaps because I have a chemistry background I tend to grab an approprate solvent on the first or second try. But all solvents are good, if they are being used on the correct products.
Gary Kalyn
Kalynzoo Productions
Woodworking
Porter Ranch/Northridge
Los Angeles, CA
Kalynzoo Productions
Woodworking
Porter Ranch/Northridge
Los Angeles, CA
What am I cleaning? Aluminum table surfaces (Shopsmiths, my Craftsman table saw), cast iron (jointer, older SS bandsaw table), etc. When I stored my tools, I put a coat of Johnson's Paste wax on everything cast iron and just left it. No buffing. I don't recall putting anything on the aluminum surfaces. Although I've been using them a little to build shelves and such in the shop, I haven't yet given them a thorough cleaning and re-waxing/buffing.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
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Talking about JPW (Sc Johnson Paste Wax), I communicated with the company and it is not available in Canada anymore, they never told me why ....
I thought I was going to ask some friends of mine who are in Florida during winter, but I just learn that they travel by plane now and you cannot bring stuff like that on a plane anymore for whatever reasons that we will not go into.
So I will have to order, I guess.
I thought I was going to ask some friends of mine who are in Florida during winter, but I just learn that they travel by plane now and you cannot bring stuff like that on a plane anymore for whatever reasons that we will not go into.
So I will have to order, I guess.
Camerio
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JPG
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Any reason they cannot 'mail' it to you? Identify it as machine tool preservative/lubricant.camerio wrote:Talking about JPW (Sc Johnson Paste Wax), I communicated with the company and it is not available in Canada anymore, they never told me why ....
I thought I was going to ask some friends of mine who are in Florida during winter, but I just learn that they travel by plane now and you cannot bring stuff like that on a plane anymore for whatever reasons that we will not go into.
So I will have to order, I guess.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange