10er bandsaw

lazylightningny · Post by **lazylightningny** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:58 pm

Hi Folks,

First time poster here. I have gramps' old 10ER- great tool. I want to get a bandsaw for it. I've seen several posted on ebay, but I'm not understanding how to attach it to the Shopsmith frame, or how to power it. Could someone explain?

Thanks in advance,
Steve

SDSSmith · Post by **SDSSmith** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:29 pm

Shopsmith marketed two brackets, designated 'A' and 'B', to allow the mounting of certain special purpose tools like the bandsaw on the 10ER. These come up from time to time on Ebay but are usually very expensive. There is a fellow name Zeev Perry who fabricates one out of aluminum who also sells on Ebay. Folks over on the Yahoo 10ER users group have fabricated brackets out of wood and other materials. If you go to the group you will find some of these in the picture section.

In addition to the bracket, you will need to mount a drive hub to the headstock pulley. Again, Shopsmith marketed a pulley with an integral hub. These too are rare. Zeev also makes one of these. Users over on the yahoo group have also used pieces of quill spline inserted through the headstock pulley and mounted a drive hub to that.

If you are interested, I would suggest that you go to the yahoo group. Here is a link. Skip Campbell, the moderator, is very helpful and generous with his time and advice.

lazylightningny · Post by **lazylightningny** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:38 pm

Thanks, Rob. I'll check out the Yahoo site.

Best regards,
Steve

shipwright · Post by **shipwright** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:47 pm

My 10ER came with some very innovative owner-built extras one of which was this SPT adapter.

pennview · Post by **pennview** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:52 am

For another option, take a look at this page on Skip Campbell's web site -- http://mkctools.com/10ersptadapter.htm . He uses an SPT Mounting Base together with a piece of plywood and some U-bolts to fashion an adapter for using Mark V SPTs on a 10ER.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:19 am

shipwright wrote:My 10ER came with some very innovative owner-built extras one of which was this SPT adapter.

Thank You for the link to that post. I have been gonna look it up.

Pennview: Thank You also for skip's version. I had not seen that before. I think I would make it to slip on the end rather than inside the tie bar. A clamp on the inner end would make it more secure since the platform(plywood) would need to be cut out to clear the tie bar.

@$%^E% Now I have to 'make a decision'!:D I really really liked Shipwright's version!

P.S. I would also rotate the spt mount 180 to move the spt back towards the headstock.

lazylightningny · Post by **lazylightningny** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:39 am

Does anyone on the forum have a close up of the drive hub?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:16 pm

lazylightningny wrote:Does anyone on the forum have a close up of the drive hub?

From Shipwright's pix:

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The shaft is secured to the added pulley by it's setscrew.

The added pulley is secured to the outer rim of the main shaft cone puller by screws into the flange. I assume the screws are filed flush with the pulley on the inside. This has got to be the weak link. There is not much thickness there.

The hub is SS oem.

The flange of the added pulley appears to have been trimmed to a smaller od to clear the screws. Not sure I agree that is good, but, there may be another reason for reducing the od!

shipwright · Post by **shipwright** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:57 pm

JPG40504 wrote:From Shipwright's pix:
The added pulley is secured to the outer rim of the main shaft cone puller by screws into the flange. I assume the screws are filed flush with the pulley on the inside. This has got to be the weak link. There is not much thickness there.

I'm not at that shop right now and I don't use that pulley stack because the 10-ER also came with a speed changer which I do use but as I remember the "screws" you refer to actually go all the way through the stack and have nuts on the other end.

As far as the strength of the arrangement, I can't comment from personal use but I would hesitate to second guess the previous owner who obviously designed the clever SPT adapter and the very clever copy lathe attachment upon which I can comment from personal experience. This was one smart cookie and my feeling is that if he was using it it was adequate. The torque was as I remember taken by the stub shaft being partly embedded in the triple pulley stack and the key extending into both. That would leave the screws with only the job of keeping the extra pulley from falling off.

lazylightningny · Post by **lazylightningny** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:10 pm

JPG40504 wrote:From Shipwright's pix:

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Is this a home made rig or factory?