Okay here is the latest picture. God bless you guys for helping me.
Could someone please explain how to make the whole table level? I know I can't have that many segments of table (?) together on those tubes, it's too much weight and it isn't level, but I can't figure out how to attach it to the end piece. The end piece is bolted down and it seems like it's not meant to come up? I want to use this as a table saw for now so I'd like all the pieces together.
I did clean off all the rust and waxed the tubes, everything is sliding really nicely now. Last thing is the headstock. (I'm intimidated by taking the headstock apart but I will get there. baby steps)
Rotate that handle (the direction to turn it depends on how it was installed) and it should loosen the table do you can raise it.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
missfixit wrote:I want to use this as a table saw for now so I'd like all the pieces together.
I did clean off all the rust and waxed the tubes, everything is sliding really nicely now. Last thing is the headstock. (I'm intimidated by taking the headstock apart but I will get there. baby steps)
Just a friendly reminder. BEFORE ya stick your hand inside the headstock. UNPLUG IT. You have lubed and adjusted the SS?
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop. .
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Bob
missfixit wrote:Okay here is the latest picture. God bless you guys for helping me.
Could someone please explain how to make the whole table level? I know I can't have that many segments of table (?) together on those tubes, it's too much weight and it isn't level, but I can't figure out how to attach it to the end piece. The end piece is bolted down and it seems like it's not meant to come up? I want to use this as a table saw for now so I'd like all the pieces together.
I did clean off all the rust and waxed the tubes, everything is sliding really nicely now. Last thing is the headstock. (I'm intimidated by taking the headstock apart but I will get there. baby steps)
Sawdust Session SS113 shows how to align the tables. Nick is doing this on a 520 set-up, but the same priciples apply to your 510. About 6:40 into the video, he rotates the lock and lifts the extension table on one end. There does not appear to be much success from the group on this forum (me included) for getting the tables aligned so that the extension table will perfectly align on both ends, but......
Someone has probably sent this already, but just in case.....
Here's a link to the top-level index for all of the Sawdust Sessions.
Hang in there.....you're making great progress.
Bud F.
1998 Mark V 510 bought used 2006, Jointer, 2 Bandsaws, ca 1960 Yuba SawSmith RAS
Projects and "stuff": http://www.bfulgham.com/JAlbum/Woodworking_Index/
Okay, I did loosen that lock handle between the bars. It still wouldn't budge. I looked at the video as well -- he says "If the tubes won't slide up after you loosen the handle, then it's probably because the bolts aren't adjusted properly" -- then he gets under there and does something to the bolts but I'm not sure what, because his back is blocking the camera.
bffulgham wrote:Sawdust Session SS113 shows how to align the tables. Nick is doing this on a 520 set-up, but the same priciples apply to your 510. About 6:40 into the video, he rotates the lock and lifts the extension table on one end. There does not appear to be much success from the group on this forum (me included) for getting the tables aligned so that the extension table will perfectly align on both ends, but......
Someone has probably sent this already, but just in case.....
Here's a link to the top-level index for all of the Sawdust Sessions.
Hang in there.....you're making great progress.
Here is another link to all the sawdust sessions. I like it because you can list by session or by topic. It is also searchable.
missfixit wrote:Okay, I did loosen that lock handle between the bars. It still wouldn't budge. I looked at the video as well -- he says "If the tubes won't slide up after you loosen the handle, then it's probably because the bolts aren't adjusted properly" -- then he gets under there and does something to the bolts but I'm not sure what, because his back is blocking the camera.
I will try again tonight!
Are you sure you loosened it enough? You may have to really loosen it if it has been cranked down and sitting for a while.
In fact, just to make sure it isn't the lock causing the problem, loosen the locking handle completely. This will retract the locking bolts all the way and then you can simply slide the locking handle straight out of the casting.
Support the table when you do this, in case it wants to come crashing down. If the locking handle comes out of the casting and the table is still stuck, you may have a burr or on the table tubes or debris/sawdust between the tubes and the holes in the casting. Cross that bridge when we come to it.
missfixit wrote:Okay, I did loosen that lock handle between the bars. It still wouldn't budge. I looked at the video as well -- he says "If the tubes won't slide up after you loosen the handle, then it's probably because the bolts aren't adjusted properly" -- then he gets under there and does something to the bolts but I'm not sure what, because his back is blocking the camera.
I will try again tonight!
Someone else might have a better suggestion, but I think what I would do in this case is completely remove the lock handle. Keep loosening it and you'll eventually be able to pull it out. (The way it works is there are bolts threaded into the ends, one with left hand threads. Guides in the end casting holds the bolt heads and as you turn the handle it threads them in or out pushing them against the table legs to hold the table in place, or pulling them back in so you can move the table.)
There could be a burr or some other damage on the table legs. But let's hope it's just oxidation/dust/dirt that has built up and has them stuck in place. Spray some WD-40 or a penetrating oil (PB Blaster, Kroil, etc) on the seam where the table legs go into the end casting and into the holes where the lock handle was. Give it a few minutes to penetrate down, then "persuade" the table to come up. Some gentle taps with a rubber mallet should start things moving. Once removed, clean up the legs with some light sanding and wax and do the same thing to the holes they came out of.
Make sure the lock handle is adjusted correctly by screwing each bolt all the way down into the handle. When you re-install it make sure that, as you turn the lock handle, each bolt stays in its guide so that both bolts are pushed out equally. You might have to manually back out each bolt a little bit (back each one out equally) to make re-installing the handle a little easier.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
missfixit wrote:Okay, I did loosen that lock handle between the bars. It still wouldn't budge. I looked at the video as well -- he says "If the tubes won't slide up after you loosen the handle, then it's probably because the bolts aren't adjusted properly" -- then he gets under there and does something to the bolts but I'm not sure what, because his back is blocking the camera.
I will try again tonight!
The lock handle has a bolt in each end. If properly installed, the bolts protrude an equal amount on each side. If one bolt is longer than the other, the lock handle can be difficult to remove. You may have to hunt for a position where you can remove the lock handle completely in order to balance the two bolts.
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With the Lock Handle released or removed completely as shown, the table should lift right out (straight up). It should be secure even when unlocked but not hard to lift out.
I have had the extension legs get so tight that I had to use a pry bar to move the table up. Wax and sawdust can get where it does not belong and bind things up real tight.
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missfixit wrote:Okay, I did loosen that lock handle between the bars. It still wouldn't budge. I looked at the video as well -- he says "If the tubes won't slide up after you loosen the handle, then it's probably because the bolts aren't adjusted properly" -- then he gets under there and does something to the bolts but I'm not sure what, because his back is blocking the camera.
I will try again tonight!
Hi,
It could be the table has become stressed and you might have to loosen 4 nuts on the underside to allow the legs to go back into shape and allow them to slide out.
Below shows the nuts, well you can see three of them the forth is out of sight, these are the ones that might need to be loosened.
