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I normally include the motor pan when reversing any motor as I install the FWD/REV switch in the motor pan under the speed control handle.
Bill Mayo bill.mayo@verizon.net
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
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wannabewoodworker
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Could be didn't really think about that but frankly I don't think that extra ventilation would be a bad thing for these machines mine get quite warm while using them. Not hot just warm and some extra ventilation might alleviate some of that heat. Do you think that my idea would be detrimental to the operation of the SS?beeg wrote:But do ya think that might change the designed air flow patterns?
Michael Mayo
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Soft Designs Inc.
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1960's SS Mark VII, 1954 Greenie, 1983 Mark V, Jointer, Bandsaw, Jigsaw, Dewalt Slider, Delta Super 10, Delta 8" Grinder, Craftsman compressor, Drill Doctor, Kreg PH Jig, Bosch Jigsaw, Craftsman Router and Table...........and adding more all the time....
Senior IT Support Engineer
Soft Designs Inc.
albiemanmike@gmail.com
1960's SS Mark VII, 1954 Greenie, 1983 Mark V, Jointer, Bandsaw, Jigsaw, Dewalt Slider, Delta Super 10, Delta 8" Grinder, Craftsman compressor, Drill Doctor, Kreg PH Jig, Bosch Jigsaw, Craftsman Router and Table...........and adding more all the time....
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JPG
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"Normal" air flow is in from the 'vent' plate(and any other opening) through the rotating 'stuff' in the headstock, down into the openings in the motor, through the motor and on into the fan blades(fan sheave) and out the large louvre in the bottom of the pan.wannabewoodworker wrote:Could be didn't really think about that but frankly I don't think that extra ventilation would be a bad thing for these machines mine get quite warm while using them. Not hot just warm and some extra ventilation might alleviate some of that heat. Do you think that my idea would be detrimental to the operation of the SS?
IMHO adding an opening to the bottom of the pan would be counter-productive. Less air through the headstock 'stuff' above, and recirculating air(and possibly dust) from below.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Progress Report: 03/24/2012
Been busy - so figured I'd give a quick progress report. So far the major parts have all been cleaned, sanded and primed (Rustoleum Self-etching for the interior of parts, and Rustoleum bare metal primer for the exterior). You will notice the motor pan is missing as that will be coming from Bill Mayo after some motor rework (gave up on the one above with the hole in it).
All of the handles and knobs have been sanded through the grits and then buffed (used my other SS for all of this work). The tubes have all been sanded and polished using the SS as a lathe (per information found elsewhere in the forums - I used a test plug on the drive end and clamped a board with 2 wheels on the tailstock end for support there).
Thanks again for all of the help! This forum has been invaluable - both in terms of information and inspiration. I still haven't settled on tube length yet. Probably going to take 18" off to keep most of the versatility of the machine intact. Was tempted to go go the route of using only 1 set of tubes for a "mini", but afraid I'll give up too much functionality. Will let you know how that all ends up.
Weather has been crap out here (rain/snow, etc.) so I've had to do all of the painting work in my garage. Waiting on the Rustoleum Hammered in Verde to show up so can do the final paint. Hoping that shows up today. Also waiting on a table (eBay), as the one that came with the unit was beyond repair.
For those folks new to a Shopsmith, there is probably no better way to learn what makes these things tick then to find an old used one, tear it down to every last screw, and then put it back together. Obviously mine's not back together yet - but I have learned more about my SS in the past month than in all the years of owning my other Mark V.
Edit: The original owner used this Shopsmith for an upholstery business, and apparently never bothered to protect the SS while working on it. Seems like just about every part was covered with glue (hardened after years of sitting there). Never knew glue could be such a pain to deal with until this project. Used a sharp chisel to remove the worst of it - and then sandpaper, etc. to take care of the rest. Makes a pretty good case for covering your machine best you can, especially when using glue, etc.
Been busy - so figured I'd give a quick progress report. So far the major parts have all been cleaned, sanded and primed (Rustoleum Self-etching for the interior of parts, and Rustoleum bare metal primer for the exterior). You will notice the motor pan is missing as that will be coming from Bill Mayo after some motor rework (gave up on the one above with the hole in it).
All of the handles and knobs have been sanded through the grits and then buffed (used my other SS for all of this work). The tubes have all been sanded and polished using the SS as a lathe (per information found elsewhere in the forums - I used a test plug on the drive end and clamped a board with 2 wheels on the tailstock end for support there).
Thanks again for all of the help! This forum has been invaluable - both in terms of information and inspiration. I still haven't settled on tube length yet. Probably going to take 18" off to keep most of the versatility of the machine intact. Was tempted to go go the route of using only 1 set of tubes for a "mini", but afraid I'll give up too much functionality. Will let you know how that all ends up.
Weather has been crap out here (rain/snow, etc.) so I've had to do all of the painting work in my garage. Waiting on the Rustoleum Hammered in Verde to show up so can do the final paint. Hoping that shows up today. Also waiting on a table (eBay), as the one that came with the unit was beyond repair.
For those folks new to a Shopsmith, there is probably no better way to learn what makes these things tick then to find an old used one, tear it down to every last screw, and then put it back together. Obviously mine's not back together yet - but I have learned more about my SS in the past month than in all the years of owning my other Mark V.
Edit: The original owner used this Shopsmith for an upholstery business, and apparently never bothered to protect the SS while working on it. Seems like just about every part was covered with glue (hardened after years of sitting there). Never knew glue could be such a pain to deal with until this project. Used a sharp chisel to remove the worst of it - and then sandpaper, etc. to take care of the rest. Makes a pretty good case for covering your machine best you can, especially when using glue, etc.
I am in the restoration mode also, maybe a bit behind where you are- just ordered my verde green yesterday. Which primer are you using? I have read in the forums a number of different applications. I am leaning toward the self etching primer- some folks have gone without primer over bare metal. that doesn't seem like it would hold up over time.
Also I empathize about the weather. Just too cold to paint right for me right now.
TC
Also I empathize about the weather. Just too cold to paint right for me right now.
TC
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dusty
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Looking good, bdeweese. Another great machine is in the delivery channels.
cranehead, we are waiting for pictures. Good luck with whatever is left. BTW, I've been using that "it's too cold or too windy to paint" excuse ever since I finished building the new TV cabinet.
cranehead, we are waiting for pictures. Good luck with whatever is left. BTW, I've been using that "it's too cold or too windy to paint" excuse ever since I finished building the new TV cabinet.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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FWIW, I didn't let the cold weather deter me from painting. I know it's supposed to be warmer, ideally, but got tired of waiting on the weather. I did it in my garage when it was in the 30's outside. Just had to do several very light coats so it wouldn't run. Once the parts were dry to the touch I brought them inside the house to help them set up good (wife was particularly happy about that part ...cranehead wrote:I am in the restoration mode also, maybe a bit behind where you are- just ordered my verde green yesterday. Which primer are you using? I have read in the forums a number of different applications. I am leaning toward the self etching primer- some folks have gone without primer over bare metal. that doesn't seem like it would hold up over time.
Also I empathize about the weather. Just too cold to paint right for me right now.
TC
).I used the bare metal primer on the exterior on all of my components because it could also work on painted surfaces (had a lot of areas where the old paint was on real good - just needed to rough it up). Wasn't sure that I could use the etching primer on the painted areas - anyone else know if that's ok? I did use the etching primer on all of the interior surfaces, as they were clean and completely paint free. Weather was perfect today and I could have finished painting all of my parts outside - but the dang paint won't be here until Monday ...
I decided to pull the bearings from the drive shaft, as they seemed to have a bit of slop. Now I need to get a couple replacements ordered. Also, my new used 500 table & fence showed up today so I started working on refinishing that.
Hope to have some more pics next week.
Bob
Thanks Dusty. Couldn't have gotten to this point without help from you and the others in this forum!!dusty wrote:Looking good, bdeweese. Another great machine is in the delivery channels.
cranehead, we are waiting for pictures. Good luck with whatever is left. BTW, I've been using that "it's too cold or too windy to paint" excuse ever since I finished building the new TV cabinet.
Bob