I can not imagine using the quill twister with that handle attached. The handle would simply be "in the way". An old coupler with the spring removed would be my tool of choice.
Actually, I'd remove the hub cover and throw it in the drawer where it would work its way to the back and be forgotten.
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dusty wrote: . . . Actually, I'd remove the hub cover and throw it in the drawer where it would work its way to the back and be forgotten.
That is just what I have done, Dusty - just what I have done!
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try this link:mgdesigns wrote:What's a hub cover? Picture please.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/spec ... offers.htm
the top picture headstock shows it in place. The bottom picture without it.
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A device designed to necessitate a quill twister.mgdesigns wrote:What's a hub cover? Picture please.
It is standard equipment on post 2002 Shopsmiths. It is a cover held on by a couple of screws that prevents you from bumping into the sides of the upper and lower auxiliary shafts while they are spinning . I can't find a part number and the only picture I could find is the small picture for the new quill twister in use on the Specials page; ironically, when you click on the small picture you get a big picture of the quill twister being used on a hub that doesn't even have the hub cover installed (thus making the quill twister totally unnecessary).
I don't have a hub coupler and I am really trying to figure out if I did whether I'd want a quill twister. Seems to me that unless you permanently dedicate a coupler to the quill twister, you will have to take time to find and install the quill twister on the coupler to use it. Shopsmith might as well sell a specialized "Hub Cover Remover" a/k/a a screw driver.
Reminds me of when Nick said during a Sawdust Session to use a $20 bill as a spacer during alignment of the trunnions. If you didn't have a $20 bill, Nick joked that Shopsmith would be happy to sell you a special "Andy Jackson" spacer (a/k/a a$20 bill) for $40 plus shipping and handling (or words to that effect).
Thanks, I've never seen that before, and I don't believe I'll need it either. As they say in the South, "Useless as T1ts on a boar hog." Probably put on there to keep OSHA or Product Safety lawyers from complaining or creating lawsuits. KISS - Keep It Stupid, Simple!
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per mike the traveling shopsmith sales guy its there to comply with european regs. there is a similar one for the bandsaw. his bandsaw had the cover attached with 5/32 hex nuts rather than thumb screws for similar reasonsmgdesigns wrote:Thanks, I've never seen that before, and I don't believe I'll need it either. As they say in the South, "Useless as T1ts on a boar hog." Probably put on there to keep OSHA or Product Safety lawyers from complaining or creating lawsuits. KISS - Keep It Stupid, Simple!
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brad_nalor
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Does that super duper handle thingy include a foam grip? I don't want to hurt my hands. We need someone to protect us so shouldn't the Regulators make them have a complete giant encloser made of plexiglass to cover my machine when its running? Perhaps they could add a little robot (SS Shopbot?) to push the wood thru my table saw.
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I actually think it's a good idea. I have a bunch of Mark Vs and recently saw two last week as I was looking for a newer bandsaw. I saw a 510 on Sunday & on Monday, the 520 that was for sale in Southern Maryland. Both headstocks were turned off with the speed control set on high.
Some people do; some people don't follow the practice of turning the speed down to low before turning off the power. Sometimes a breaker will trip; sometimes it won't.
On the 510 with a newer bandsaw I looked at on Sunday, I couldn't find a sanding disk, so I simply turned the quill hub by hand as I turned the speed control down. It took a little bit of time, but got it done. There was a lot of rust on the bench & base assembly so I passed after making an offer on the bandsaw.
On Monday I got a phone call from the owner of the 520 listed for only $600 in Maryland & learned it was still for sale. Monday was my only free day, so I went on down. It's amazing it was put up on Craig's List on April 5th and had no one interested until the 29th when I emailed the seller & he said it was still for sale along with many other things not shown in the picture. I promised someone pics of the bandsaw fence. I will post them as soon as I unload my car. Been too busy.
Well it had a hub guard on it. I didn't have much time as I had to turn around & drive back home before my wife got home. The speed control was set on high & I didn't even bother to mess around, but a quill twister would of come in handy right then.
It seems for some reason my fingers have been getting hit by the spinning hubs. It also looks like a potential problem yet to happen if someone, somehow, somewhere, and someway got their hair cut in a spinning hub- ouch. I don't have long hair and I down wear anything clothing that might catch.
The hub guard costs less than $10 and just might prevent an accident as I do not believe anyone would purposefully get caught on a spinning hub. They'd win the stupid prize of the week award; although who knows in this day & age when someone can admit they purposely abused a table saw & suffered some serious damage which might have been prevent had SawStop technology been a part of the table saw and are awarded $1.5 million.
That kinda scares me that legislators are going to possibly mandate all table saws have Saw Stop or flesh detection technology. I prefer the Whirlwind technique as it doesn't make a loud enough noise to wake up the dead, destroy a saw blade, and require a $60 part replaced. But like anything, it would need to be used. I understand wet wood can falsely trip the SawStop- ouch or the system can be bypassed... I know many carpenters who bypassed safety features on framing nailers & ended up shooting themselves by accident. Or others who take off the kickback guards off of table saws & are hit themselves or hit others by wood that has been kicked back... What good is a safety device if it is bypassed or taken off?
Is the quill twister an absolute have to have item- not at all. Is it priced right? I honestly do not know, but I do know the company has survived some hard times and managed to gamble on a new motor which I think is nothing less than amazing considering it fits in every Mark V headstock ever made. Can someone make one of these & post it- I bet easily.
The company really scaled back in order to survive and if they come up with something that one person can use, then good. There are R&D costs associated with just about anything and it takes a while before the break-even point is reached. There will be other bargains/deals in the future. I see them every week as opposed to a few times a year when the catalog was published. I can remember always looking forward to the Father's Day Catalog.
This is just my opinion and I try to buy things when they are on special. I don't think Shopsmith is twisting anyone's arm, but rather simply coming up with a product that might help somebody & in turn, keep the company from doing what so many others have done over the last few years. The hub guard is like $8.95 plus shipping. It is just a piece of plastic, but the price is not based on just the material, but in addition to R&D, there are storage costs, inventory costs, and other overhead not immediately apparent to the observer at first.
So those are my two cents.
Tony
Some people do; some people don't follow the practice of turning the speed down to low before turning off the power. Sometimes a breaker will trip; sometimes it won't.
On the 510 with a newer bandsaw I looked at on Sunday, I couldn't find a sanding disk, so I simply turned the quill hub by hand as I turned the speed control down. It took a little bit of time, but got it done. There was a lot of rust on the bench & base assembly so I passed after making an offer on the bandsaw.
On Monday I got a phone call from the owner of the 520 listed for only $600 in Maryland & learned it was still for sale. Monday was my only free day, so I went on down. It's amazing it was put up on Craig's List on April 5th and had no one interested until the 29th when I emailed the seller & he said it was still for sale along with many other things not shown in the picture. I promised someone pics of the bandsaw fence. I will post them as soon as I unload my car. Been too busy.
Well it had a hub guard on it. I didn't have much time as I had to turn around & drive back home before my wife got home. The speed control was set on high & I didn't even bother to mess around, but a quill twister would of come in handy right then.
It seems for some reason my fingers have been getting hit by the spinning hubs. It also looks like a potential problem yet to happen if someone, somehow, somewhere, and someway got their hair cut in a spinning hub- ouch. I don't have long hair and I down wear anything clothing that might catch.
The hub guard costs less than $10 and just might prevent an accident as I do not believe anyone would purposefully get caught on a spinning hub. They'd win the stupid prize of the week award; although who knows in this day & age when someone can admit they purposely abused a table saw & suffered some serious damage which might have been prevent had SawStop technology been a part of the table saw and are awarded $1.5 million.
That kinda scares me that legislators are going to possibly mandate all table saws have Saw Stop or flesh detection technology. I prefer the Whirlwind technique as it doesn't make a loud enough noise to wake up the dead, destroy a saw blade, and require a $60 part replaced. But like anything, it would need to be used. I understand wet wood can falsely trip the SawStop- ouch or the system can be bypassed... I know many carpenters who bypassed safety features on framing nailers & ended up shooting themselves by accident. Or others who take off the kickback guards off of table saws & are hit themselves or hit others by wood that has been kicked back... What good is a safety device if it is bypassed or taken off?
Is the quill twister an absolute have to have item- not at all. Is it priced right? I honestly do not know, but I do know the company has survived some hard times and managed to gamble on a new motor which I think is nothing less than amazing considering it fits in every Mark V headstock ever made. Can someone make one of these & post it- I bet easily.
The company really scaled back in order to survive and if they come up with something that one person can use, then good. There are R&D costs associated with just about anything and it takes a while before the break-even point is reached. There will be other bargains/deals in the future. I see them every week as opposed to a few times a year when the catalog was published. I can remember always looking forward to the Father's Day Catalog.
This is just my opinion and I try to buy things when they are on special. I don't think Shopsmith is twisting anyone's arm, but rather simply coming up with a product that might help somebody & in turn, keep the company from doing what so many others have done over the last few years. The hub guard is like $8.95 plus shipping. It is just a piece of plastic, but the price is not based on just the material, but in addition to R&D, there are storage costs, inventory costs, and other overhead not immediately apparent to the observer at first.
So those are my two cents.
Tony
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damagi wrote:I wish the engineering time was spent on something more practical, like making on of the nova 55518 style remotes work with the powerpro...or perhaps redesigning the guard such that it didn't cause this "issue"
http://www.amazon.com/NOVA-55518-Wireless-Remote-Accessory/dp/B0064JIY3G
This I agree with, maybe if they sell enough PowerPro's they will get around to getting the remote done. I assume since the PowerPro was designed after the Nova controller it should not be a major issue getting the remote to work. All the DVR Nova motors are upgradable, newer ones just work because they have the radio included.
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A 1982 500 Shopsmith brand upgraded to a Mark 7 PowerPro, Jointer, Bandsaw (with Kreg fence), Strip Sander, Ring Master and lots of accessories all purchased new
12" Sliding Compound Mitre Saw, 1200 CFM DC