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damagi wrote:Yup, I tried it at first and removed it, but don't remember what the first thing was that prompted me to do so...I think it was because I couldn't fit my lathe faceplate on that side for rotating the spindle when doing lathe turning.

That is one of the things that this "sillly thing lets you do". Since you removed it can you send me details on the screws used to attach it since I do want to install it and I need to get the screws and tap some holes.
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[quote="backhertz"]
It seems for some reason my fingers have been getting hit by the spinning hubs. It also looks like a potential problem yet to happen if someone, somehow, somewhere, and someway got their hair cut in a spinning hub- ouch. I don't have long hair and I down wear anything clothing that might catch.

The hub guard costs less than $10 and just might prevent an accident as I do not believe anyone would purposefully get caught on a spinning hub. They'd win the stupid prize of the week award]

I added a hub cover in my last order and it was $3.99 without the necessary screws. Hopefully that was an oversight and they will ship me the two screws. Only one of them is available for order on-line, the other is a mystery. Also I have now hit the spinning hub twice while using the table-saw which is why I ordered it. $3.99 is very reasonable compared to scraped knuckles.
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paulmcohen wrote:That is one of the things that this "sillly thing lets you do". Since you removed it can you send me details on the screws used to attach it since I do want to install it and I need to get the screws and tap some holes.

Let's see, the guard has two openings for the hubs to extend into. One would expect the hub spacing and the opening spacing to be the same.


Sooo, if the guard is positioned to clear the hubs the same amount vertically, and the openings are centered to the hubs front to rear, the location of the mounting screws is where the mounting holes in the guard are.



Orrrrr, measure the opening and mounting holes locations on the guard and layout the mounting hole location on the belt cover.







Surely we do not need a repeat of the new caster drilling template scenario!:D




Oh Oh!!! Lay the guard on a blank piece of stiff paper, trace the hub opening and mounting holes on the paper and use that as a drill template.;)



Poking a pencil through the hub openings not required!:rolleyes:
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[quote="JPG40504"]Let's see, the guard has two openings for the hubs to extend into. One would expect the hub spacing and the opening spacing to be the same.


Sooo, if the guard is positioned to clear the hubs the same amount vertically, and the openings are centered to the hubs front to rear, the location of the mounting screws is where the mounting holes in the guard are.



Orrrrr, measure the opening and mounting holes locations on the guard and layout the mounting hole location on the belt cover.







Surely we do not need a repeat of the new caster drilling template scenario!:D




Oh Oh!!! Lay the guard on a blank piece of stiff paper, trace the hub opening and mounting holes on the paper and use that as a drill template.]

Hole positioning is not the issue, the type, length and thread of the two different screws is.

My upgrade kit did not come with screws, it come with instructions calling for two different button head screws (missing with no descriptions) and two identical washers (which I have).
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paulmcohen wrote:Hole positioning is not the issue, the type, length and thread of the two different screws is.

My upgrade kit did not come with screws, it come with instructions calling for two different button head screws (missing with no descriptions) and two identical washers (which I have).
Ah so! Are the mounting holes different diameters or different 'depth'? That would imply different gauge or length.


Since there seems to be no mention of nuts etc, self threading screws are likely.

Lastly there is possible interfering with internal stuff???
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When first looking at the E-mail re: Quill Twister had to laugh! This brought my mind back to a time in the past. But first.....

The twister is probably a good tool for those using the Hub Cover. The Hub Cover is a pretty good safety attachment to prevent any accident caused by anything getting caught in a spinning hub. I can appreciate the safety thoughts of anyone worrying about fear of spinning objects. But now to revisit my first acquaintance with one of those covers.

Several years ago, I was thrilled to accept a request from Shopsmith to set up a newly delivered, boxed, 520 in the local Lowe's for a coming demonstration. The demonstrator would be there the next day. So - O.K. - Got to Lowe's and found the boxes and set up the machine. When noticing the Hub Cover, I removed it so the demonstrator would have no issues about it. I thought the cover was a device to prevent any damage to the two shafts during shipping. Not realizing it was supposed to be there.

After the 520 was assembled, I couldn't help but wonder if that plastic cover should be put back on. Called Shopsmith and found out it was a protection device and was supposed to be there. So screwed it back into place and was full of wonderment. WOW! Wondered if I would ever want one of those hings.

Demonstration went well the next day with the Hub Cover.

Is a winder a useful tool, even if you have the Hub Cover? Depends on the user - But - Rather than reaching for a "Winder", (which probably will not be real handy) wouldn't it just be easier to loosen the lower saw cover and hand turning the spindle using the silver ring?
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charlese wrote:When first looking at the E-mail re: Quill Twister had to laugh! This brought my mind back to a time in the past. But first.....

The twister is probably a good tool for those using the Hub Cover. The Hub Cover is a pretty good safety attachment to prevent any accident caused by anything getting caught in a spinning hub. I can appreciate the safety thoughts of anyone worrying about fear of spinning objects. But now to revisit my first acquaintance with one of those covers.

Several years ago, I was thrilled to accept a request from Shopsmith to set up a newly delivered, boxed, 520 in the local Lowe's for a coming demonstration. The demonstrator would be there the next day. So - O.K. - Got to Lowe's and found the boxes and set up the machine. When noticing the Hub Cover, I removed it so the demonstrator would have no issues about it. I thought the cover was a device to prevent any damage to the two shafts during shipping. Not realizing it was supposed to be there.

After the 520 was assembled, I couldn't help but wonder if that plastic cover should be put back on. Called Shopsmith and found out it was a protection device and was supposed to be there. So screwed it back into place and was full of wonderment. WOW! Wondered if I would ever want one of those hings.

Demonstration went well the next day with the Hub Cover.

Is a winder a useful tool, even if you have the Hub Cover? Depends on the user - But - Rather than reaching for a "Winder", (which probably will not be real handy) wouldn't it just be easier to loosen the lower saw cover and hand turning the spindle using the silver ring?
So! What did the screws look like, and were they self threading/tapping?;)
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charlese wrote:When first looking at the E-mail re: Quill Twister had to laugh! This brought my mind back to a time in the past. But first.....

The twister is probably a good tool for those using the Hub Cover. The Hub Cover is a pretty good safety attachment to prevent any accident caused by anything getting caught in a spinning hub. I can appreciate the safety thoughts of anyone worrying about fear of spinning objects. But now to revisit my first acquaintance with one of those covers.

Several years ago, I was thrilled to accept a request from Shopsmith to set up a newly delivered, boxed, 520 in the local Lowe's for a coming demonstration. The demonstrator would be there the next day. So - O.K. - Got to Lowe's and found the boxes and set up the machine. When noticing the Hub Cover, I removed it so the demonstrator would have no issues about it. I thought the cover was a device to prevent any damage to the two shafts during shipping. Not realizing it was supposed to be there.

After the 520 was assembled, I couldn't help but wonder if that plastic cover should be put back on. Called Shopsmith and found out it was a protection device and was supposed to be there. So screwed it back into place and was full of wonderment. WOW! Wondered if I would ever want one of those hings.

Demonstration went well the next day with the Hub Cover.

Is a winder a useful tool, even if you have the Hub Cover? Depends on the user - But - Rather than reaching for a "Winder", (which probably will not be real handy) wouldn't it just be easier to loosen the lower saw cover and hand turning the spindle using the silver ring?

Or :eek: rotate the saw blade(I assume either a saw blade or sanding disk is attached if the guard is there).

If a different shroud is covering the collar, surely there is something(maybe sharp) that can be accessed and rotated.




I have been wondering what to do with a severed(driven end) coupler remnant. Maybe when I get bored, I will attach a hand wheel or knob to it and 'make' a twister out of it.


Last question is, when do you need it? If you need access to the 'flat' you are probably about to either mount or dismount something on/off the quill. If dismounting you already have an object to grasp and move.
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[quote="JPG40504"]So! What did the screws look like, and were they self threading/tapping?]

Yep, I think you could call them (it) self tapping. Silver, pointed, with wide set threads. But now, as I remember there may have been only one screw. There was a hole in the headstock, like the hole on the quill side to hold the motor cover.
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charlese wrote:Yep, I think you could call them (it) self tapping. Silver, pointed, with wide set threads. But now, as I remember there may have been only one screw. There was a hole in the headstock, like the hole on the quill side to hold the motor cover.
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