Shopsmith-Branded Nova G3 Lathe Chuck

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I'd like to point out this post for those of you who might have missed it. It deals with the PSI 5/8 to 1-1/8 adapter. I too feel the "angle" is very important in the case of lathe adapters.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=9990

Ed
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One more thing...

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I am feeling so good to be a part of the Shopsmith forum especially as a result of this one issue with the G3 Chuck insert adapter. I learned from a gentleman tonight he has been selling chucks with the 5/8" to 1 1/8th inch 8 TPI adapter and no one had ever brought to his attention about the loose set screw problem. Isn't that something?

Culprit on 7/8/12 seems to have first brought up the latest long thread with regard to runout and now it seems there has been some confusion of which G3 Chuck insert to use on the tapered Shopsmith arbor.

Whenever I get involved with a problem, I first try to ascertain if there really is a problem. I will apologize in advance as I unconsciously tend to take a page to write 2 sentences.

Anyhow, it seems once pictures were posted, it became very obvious to me there was a difference in the two 5/8" adapters. I learned the correct one used a 5/32" set screw and the hole was drilled at an angle to match the taper on the Shopsmith arbor.

The only problem was getting everyone on board with this info & the pictures reliable sent were far better than the ones I sent of just the adapters and boxes. It seems as a result, Dusty and one other member called Teknatool and are getting the proper adapters. <crowd roars>

I have one more question. On the diagram in manual included show two items: #9 NS1000 Fiber Wad and #10 G0606 M6X6 Grubscrew. There is a note marked NB (NB means Nota Bene): Direct threaded chucks #9 & # 10 not used (with the exception of the 4-threaded direct chuck).

I understand that the red fiber washer and grubscrew (set screw for you non-Queen's English speakers) used in the Shopsmith G3 Chuck. What isn't addressed in the manual is the insertion of the fiber wad and set screw into the chuck. Does anyone know?

Thanks in advance,
Tony
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Post by algale »

backhertz wrote:I am feeling so good to be a part of the Shopsmith forum especially as a result of this one issue with the G3 Chuck insert adapter. I learned from a gentleman tonight he has been selling chucks with the 5/8" to 1 1/8th inch 8 TPI adapter and no one had ever brought to his attention about the loose set screw problem. Isn't that something?

Culprit on 7/8/12 seems to have first brought up the latest long thread with regard to runout and now it seems there has been some confusion of which G3 Chuck insert to use on the tapered Shopsmith arbor.

Whenever I get involved with a problem, I first try to ascertain if there really is a problem. I will apologize in advance as I unconsciously tend to take a page to write 2 sentences.

Anyhow, it seems once pictures were posted, it became very obvious to me there was a difference in the two 5/8" adapters. I learned the correct one used a 5/32" set screw and the hole was drilled at an angle to match the taper on the Shopsmith arbor.

The only problem was getting everyone on board with this info & the pictures reliable sent were far better than the ones I sent of just the adapters and boxes. It seems as a result, Dusty and one other member called Teknatool and are getting the proper adapters. <crowd roars>

I have one more question. On the diagram in manual included show two items: #9 NS1000 Fiber Wad and #10 G0606 M6X6 Grubscrew. There is a note marked NB (NB means Nota Bene): Direct threaded chucks #9 & # 10 not used (with the exception of the 4-threaded direct chuck).

I understand that the red fiber washer and grubscrew (set screw for you non-Queen's English speakers) used in the Shopsmith G3 Chuck. What isn't addressed in the manual is the insertion of the fiber wad and set screw into the chuck. Does anyone know?

Thanks in advance,
Tony

Don't know the answer to your question, but let me just say "thanks" for posting on this issue.
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backhertz wrote: I have one more question. On the diagram in manual included show two items: #9 NS1000 Fiber Wad and #10 G0606 M6X6 Grubscrew. There is a note marked NB (NB means Nota Bene): Direct threaded chucks #9 & # 10 not used (with the exception of the 4-threaded direct chuck).

I understand that the red fiber washer and grubscrew (set screw for you non-Queen's English speakers) used in the Shopsmith G3 Chuck. What isn't addressed in the manual is the insertion of the fiber wad and set screw into the chuck. Does anyone know?
Below is an image of the instructions that Teknatool sent with my G3 and Shopsmith adapter explaining the new adapter. These instructions have the following to say about the Fiber Wad and M6x6 setscrew (numbers 9 and 10 in the diagram):

"Thread the G3 Chuck fully on the Shopsmith Adapter. Insert the red Fiber Wad (9) in the setscrew hole on the side of the chuck. This wad will protect the threads on the insert from damage as the setscrew is tightened against the Adapter. Use the Setscrew (10) to lock the Wad against the adapter. This combination of Wad and Setscrew must be used to prevent the G3 Chuck from unthreading from the Adapter when sanding in reverse rotation."

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Post by backhertz »

Culprit,
Thanks for the Important Additional Instructions for Mounting Shopsmith Nova G3 Chuck (SKU 48231) To A Shopsmith Lathe!

I was missing this page because I did not purchase through Shopsmith. My bad. But I believe everyone, including myself are literally on the same page.

This sheet addresses the new insert SKU: ISNS was made specifically to replace the SKU:IFNS supplied with many G3 Chucks for many years. It also addresses the proper insert of the felt wad which prevents the unthreading of the adapter when sanding in the reverse direction.

Now as Paul Harvey would say, I now know "the rest of the story.

Thanks,
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brad_nalor wrote:..., just grind a little angle on that set-screw. ....
Uh, maybe it's me what's missing something.
What is it called? An angle ground on a set screw in such a way that it rotates (the angle) with tightening the screw so as to maintain the parallel relationship twixt screw and spindle. Oh. Is it a two-part setscrew?
Sorta like a sub-miniature constant velocity joint on a car's drive shaft?
This is fascinating. Didn't know you could do that.
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The "rest of the story" (at least for me), has just been delivered. I talked to Teknatool on Monday and Shopsmith on Tuesday and today I received the appropriate ISNS Adapter to replace the IFNS Adapter that I received along with the Shopsmith Nova G3 Chuck.

I don't know how this happened and at this point do not care but the whole thing is curious. This ISNS Adapter is designed to work with the Shopsmith and yet the Shopsmith Nova G3 was shipped to me and apparently to others with the wrong Adapter.

Once again, however, customer service prevails supreme at both Teknatool and Shopsmith. A telephone call on Monday morning and a replacement part received in the mail on Wednesday.
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dusty wrote: Once again, however, customer service prevails supreme at both Teknatool and Shopsmith. A telephone call on Monday morning and a replacement part received in the mail on Wednesday.

Well ya can't ask for anything more. GREAT Service. Well it wood have been better if "THEY" sent the correct one to begin with. :)
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Post by brad_nalor »

reible wrote:I'd like to point out this post for those of you who might have missed it. It deals with the PSI 5/8 to 1-1/8 adapter. I too feel the "angle" is very important in the case of lathe adapters.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=9990

Ed
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Post by emagnet »

But, still, the Teknatool website lists the IFNS adapter for use with the Shopsmith:

http://www.teknatool.com/products/Lathe_Accessories/adaptor_page.htm
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