I do not think the dressing would interfere with the sheaves. The belt movement is caused by tension changes in the belt when the control sheave is moved. Once a setting has been 'responded' to, the dressing would help prevent load slipping.jpalmer59 wrote:I think the no dressing advice is for the V not the polly V belt. The V belt has to slip on the sheaves as you adjust speed. Dressing helps belts to not slip so you would not want dressing on the V Belt.
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Belt Conditioner
I use a spray can belt conditioner (auto stores), not a dressing stick on all the Shopsmith belts in my shop. I find it keeps the belts flexible and from drying out and cracking. I spray all new belts before storing them inside out for this reason. Also prevents slipping when belt tension is too loose.JPG40504 wrote:I do not think the dressing would interfere with the sheaves. The belt movement is caused by tension changes in the belt when the control sheave is moved. Once a setting has been 'responded' to, the dressing would help prevent load slipping.
I find many belts will squeak and make other strange noises when dry. The belt conditioner help prevents the different and strange noises from the belts. I have not had any belt sticking to the sheaves or pulleys when using the belt conditioner or seen any problem relating to the belt conditioner use.
This is from one of the belt conditioner Product Description I use:
For automotive, hardware and industrial use. Stops belt slippage, increases belt power to up to 50%. Prolongs belt life by preventing dry rot and air rot. Performs well under wet conditions. Will not collect dirt or dust; will not glaze. Use on canvas, fabric, leather, rubber, auto fan belts, "v" belts and industrial belt drives.
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Belt Dressing will be applied to Poly V belt during next maintenance.
Belt Dressing will be applied to Poly V.
The belt dressing quieted the belt but it is starting to make noise again. I have to do the cleaning and maintenace on the headstock and will apply belt dressing to both the poly V and V belt.
The belts are older and have had a fair amount of use.
The belt dressing quieted the belt but it is starting to make noise again. I have to do the cleaning and maintenace on the headstock and will apply belt dressing to both the poly V and V belt.
The belts are older and have had a fair amount of use.
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Bill and group, can you share the name on the can of the product you use?billmayo wrote:I use a spray can belt conditioner (auto stores), not a dressing stick on all the Shopsmith belts in my shop.
Noticed an odd noise coming from my headstock yesterday which I traced to the drive belt. Just to be sure I lubricated the sheaves, which were overdue. I'd like to put a little dressing on that belt and want to use a good product. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Did anyone hear from Shopsmith as to why Shopsmith feels belt dressing should not be used?
I have read through all of the appropriate documentation that I have and I find no reference to belt dressing (either pro or con). This is an old thread so maybe it is impossible to determine but it would be good to know who at Shopsmith conveyed that recommendation.
I have read through all of the appropriate documentation that I have and I find no reference to belt dressing (either pro or con). This is an old thread so maybe it is impossible to determine but it would be good to know who at Shopsmith conveyed that recommendation.
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billmayo wrote: I find many belts will squeak and make other strange noises when dry. The belt conditioner help prevents the different and strange noises from the belts.
Hi Bill:
I find as I get older that I personally produce a lot of strange noises these days...
I suppose much of the reluctance to recommend belt dressing by Shopsmith may come from years of them getting headstocks in the old factory shop with enough "stuff" built up all inside of the headstock to dress the fan belt on the QE-2. Some folks suffer from the Tim Taylor complex and think that if a little does good, more is better...
These are the same guys (its usually guys
He "over-did" about everything, sometimes to frightening extremes.
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dusty wrote:Did anyone hear from Shopsmith as to why Shopsmith feels belt dressing should not be used?
I have read through all of the appropriate documentation that I have and I find no reference to belt dressing (either pro or con). This is an old thread so maybe it is impossible to determine but it would be good to know who at Shopsmith conveyed that recommendation.
See POST #8 above!!!!
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