Poll - Do you have the PowerPro upgrade?
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I voted no, just isn't likely to happen and now I have another used machine. Couldn't pass it up, but it is going to need some work to get back in shape. I finally got a project machine at a project price. Chances are if I had the money to spend, I'd probably upgrade to a cabinet saw and better dust collection.
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baysidebob
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I upgraded to the Power/Pro but as yet have not installed it. Have had it for about 5 weeks, but things just keep getting in the way of installation.
I keep finding little windows on this forum, that I don't really know what they do. So sometimes I experiment. Probably shouldn't do that, I know in my shop it can get me into trouble.
Bayside Bob
Bayside Bob
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donalexander
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I too voted no. After seeing a demo I was torn between the sales hype and the reality that the value really isn't there. If the price were to drop by half, I'd say maybe.
In the meantime, I'm exploring what it would take to make a comparable upgrade with available components. If Wife doesn't object (too loudly) I may buy a used and abused Mark V and give the full upgrade a try. I am pretty sure there are some things that could be done that would be an improvement over the Power Pro...but the question is always, what will it cost? If I come up with something, I'll post it here.
In the meantime, I'm exploring what it would take to make a comparable upgrade with available components. If Wife doesn't object (too loudly) I may buy a used and abused Mark V and give the full upgrade a try. I am pretty sure there are some things that could be done that would be an improvement over the Power Pro...but the question is always, what will it cost? If I come up with something, I'll post it here.
Don
Mark V (bought new, now sold), Model 520 (1989 510 upgraded)
Bandsaw, Jointer, and Planer
1951 Magna Engineering 10ER (restored for lathe use and sold)
Mark V (bought new, now sold), Model 520 (1989 510 upgraded)
Bandsaw, Jointer, and Planer
1951 Magna Engineering 10ER (restored for lathe use and sold)
- stephen_a._draper
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I originally thought I might upgrade after seeing Mike demonstrate it at Lowe's as well as participating in one of the Webinars but I have also decided not to upgrade. Electronics will eventually go bad when used in a high heat, high vibration environment and those electronics boards are not cheap!
Now that I have my Mark V 500 modified to have double tilt as well as a reversible 500 table, I can do under table shaping and routing without using a speed increaser. I have tried it and it works great as long as I use a slow feed rate. So I have most all of the Mark 7 capabilites now.
For information on how to make a 500 table reversible see my thread: https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=12064
Now that I have my Mark V 500 modified to have double tilt as well as a reversible 500 table, I can do under table shaping and routing without using a speed increaser. I have tried it and it works great as long as I use a slow feed rate. So I have most all of the Mark 7 capabilites now.
For information on how to make a 500 table reversible see my thread: https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=12064
Shopsmith Mark 4, Mark 7, Mark 5 shorty, planer, bandsaw, jointer, belt sander. Grizzly central dust collection 4" PVC trunk. Shopsmith Routing System stand-alone overhead pin router.
Stephen A. Draper
Author of Mark 4/7/520™ Self-Study Course ©2025
Stephen A. Draper
Author of Mark 4/7/520™ Self-Study Course ©2025
electronics vs. mechanical things
I did get the PP
but just like some others here I worry about the electronics going bad over time. So, like a good conservative, I wrapped up my LONG performing mechanical version and stored it away - just in case.
Forrest
Forrest
Forrest
Huntington Beach, CA
1985 500->510->520, bandsaw, jointer, planer, PowerPro, double-tilt, 3" casters,(now obsolete) speed increaser
Huntington Beach, CA
1985 500->510->520, bandsaw, jointer, planer, PowerPro, double-tilt, 3" casters,(now obsolete) speed increaser
- dusty
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[quote="forrestb"]I did get the PP
but just like some others here I worry about the electronics going bad over time. So, like a good conservative, I wrapped up my LONG performing mechanical version and stored it away - just in case.]
I would like to do that but I just can not bring myself to spend that sort of money (right now) while thinking I better save the old one for just in case.
Surely the warranty covers most (if not all) of the technical issues that might arise. It certainly seems that way when those few who have had problems post here. Many of the failures that have been disclosed here on the forum were with "early production models" and with any newly designed item, early production units exhibit issues that later units will not.
I would like to do that but I just can not bring myself to spend that sort of money (right now) while thinking I better save the old one for just in case.
Surely the warranty covers most (if not all) of the technical issues that might arise. It certainly seems that way when those few who have had problems post here. Many of the failures that have been disclosed here on the forum were with "early production models" and with any newly designed item, early production units exhibit issues that later units will not.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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- fredsheldon
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After having turned over 150 pens and letter openers in the last 6 months, and to date 7 green wood bowls 12-16 inch in diameter, and the 150 pen blanks cut up on the band saw and the hundreds of blanks and other items sanded with the disk sander, I would say I'm happy with the PowerPro so far. If all that vibration and catching I have generated with the bowl turning it hasn't caused any issues I don't think I will have any. Time will tell, but I think I have already gotten my moneys worth out of the upgrade. Just not having to worry about turning the speed control up and down everytime I use it has made it worth the investment. That's several hundred power ups and downs in the last 6 months. If you drove a Prius you would have paid for the upgrade already just in the fuel savings:D
Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.