SS Bench & Drill Press Vise

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:33 am

So what do you use when you drill press small objects if you do not have or use this particular one from Shopsmith .
This one can be attached to the table of the MarkV with t nuts ...
Is this the new aspect of it beside the both handles being different ?

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:45 am

camerio wrote:So what do you use when you drill press small objects if you do not have or use this particular one from Shopsmith .
This one can be attached to the table of the MarkV with t nuts ...
Is this the new aspect of it beside the both handles being different ?

The old one can be attached using t-nuts but when attached it is hardly ever where needed. It obviously was not designed specifically for use on the Shopsmith table. It is an adaptation at best. The new one doesn't look much different.

I rely heavily on clamping to either something larger or to the rip fence. I do not do pens but I do a lot of small stuff. If possible, I drill while the small stuff has not yet gotten small.

terrydowning · Post by **terrydowning** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:28 am

Best tool I have used for clamping small objects for machining is a wooden clamp.

I have a few of these in different sizes, not the manufacturer shown, but you get the idea.

[ATTACH]20581[/ATTACH]

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:38 am

From the picture on the special, it seems that it is not deep enough so you have some play, it is already completely as far as it will go, so there is no place to adjust when attached with the sliding nuts ...
It does not look long enough to cross the opening on the table so you could not clamped it down through that ....
I am hesitant, that is why I ask for opinions
I never had a drill press vise and I was looking to buy one and saw that they were expansive ....
That one from Shopsmith seem to be multi task and price well enough even with the shipping of it ... here when I add all the sale taxes and the gaz to go and get it, it ends up more expansive that the SS one.

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:40 am

terrydowning wrote:Best tool I have used for clamping small objects for machining is a wooden clamp.

I have a few of these in different sizes, not the manufacturer shown, but you get the idea.

[ATTACH]20581[/ATTACH]

Your using this horizontally on the table, I guess ...
That could be a solution.

ss50th · Post by **ss50th** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:58 am

reible wrote:I have the now inferior version they use to sell.

It looks pretty much the same and does pretty much the same thing but since this is the "The Most Fully-Featured, Best-Working Model We've Ever Offered" I guess I will have to toss mine in the trash and get the new model....

I hate when that happens.

Ed

Not only that, Ed. If you order by the cut off date you'll save at least $0.00 off normal retail price. Seems like we're getting a lot of these "weekly specials" lately with no fiscal incentive to buy them.

terrydowning · Post by **terrydowning** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:00 pm

Yup laid flat on the table. Provides a nice flat stable but movable platform for small items. Some pen makers modify these for blank drilling by cutting square notches in both sides to hold round and rectangular stock.

I have not modified any of mine yet as I drill my pen blanks in lathe mode.

camerio · Post by **camerio** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:24 pm

Thanks Terry for your explanation, I can now view how you use it ...
Someone can clamp it down for more sturdiness but I guess (the clamping down) would not be necessary.

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:38 pm

camerio wrote:From the picture on the special, it seems that it is not deep enough so you have some play, it is already completely as far as it will go, so there is no place to adjust when attached with the sliding nuts ...
It does not look long enough to cross the opening on the table so you could not clamped it down through that ....

I think you're right on your first point - in the picture below it certainly doesn't look like there's any room to move it back (toward the way tubes). Due to the angle of the picture, I can't quite make out where the back jaw of the vice is relative to the plane of the drill bit. With the bit extended down past the jaw, how much room is there between the jaw and center of the bit? That could be a fairly big limitation. Maybe you could use the back (left) miter track and extend the table to give you more space between the back jaw of the vice and the drill bit.

If I'm understanding your second point, however, I think you're wrong. The image below shows it crossing the opening on the table, and the descriptive text even states it can be mounted "through your Mark V or Mark 7's sawing table insert."

camerio wrote:I am hesitant, that is why I ask for opinions
I never had a drill press vise and I was looking to buy one and saw that they were expansive ....
That one from Shopsmith seem to be multi task and price well enough even with the shipping of it ... here when I add all the sale taxes and the gaz to go and get it, it ends up more expansive that the SS one.

Same situation here. It looked really handy, but I wanted to know if anybody else had one like it and what they thought about it before I requested the funds from my financial manager.

reible · Post by **reible** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:45 pm

Hi,

In drill press mode the left-right is adjusted with the t-nuts. The front-back is done my moving the main table in and out.

You can also mount the vise to a piece of say plywood and then add the vise to that for more flexibility.

Here is an example of the jig I made for my OPR using my dated vise.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=2730

The vice is a little light duty for metal projects but in this case it worked fine to do the job.

https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=4458

I know the vise has shown up in some of my other posts but I don't have an index to them, sorry.

Ed