ULTIMATE Fence/Router System Package

timster68 · Post by **timster68** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:53 pm

555934A
Ultimate Fence/Router System Package - For MARK V Model 520
Price 923.99

Does anyone have this?

With this set of harware, would I be able to use my own router (Triton 2 1/2hp) with this? It sounds like it comes with a router table but is it for generic routers (not the SS router). What kind of router plate is in there? What about ripping - does it come with the 5 foot tubes for table saw use? Thanks for any info.

If I can avoid getting a Porter cable or Leigh jig, plus have the accuracy of the rip fence, that would be pretty nice.

james.miller · Post by **james.miller** » Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:22 pm

I have it and it does a lot would not want to be without it. Mine came with a Woodhaven router plate and I drilled it to fit my router. I have a PC 892 and it is pushing the height for this setup but it works. I have made raised panel doors with mine. I would say it's a buy.

The PC or Leigh jigs or the Wood Rat will do longer boards easier than this system because the board is clamped in the jig and stationary. I have made dovetails in boards over 2' long with this system but that is pushing the machine's stability.

If you only work on smaller projects it's great but if you are trying to make a cedar chest or blanket chest or anything big you may end up needing both systems.

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:11 am

james.miller wrote:I have it and it does a lot would not want to be without it. Mine came with a Woodhaven router plate and I drilled it to fit my router. I have a PC 892 and it is pushing the height for this setup but it works. I have made raised panel doors with mine. I would say it's a buy.

The PC or Leigh jigs or the Wood Rat will do longer boards easier than this system because the board is clamped in the jig and stationary. I have made dovetails in boards over 2' long with this system but that is pushing the machine's stability.

If you only work on smaller projects it's great but if you are trying to make a cedar chest or blanket chest or anything big you may end up needing both systems.

James
Can/will you explain how boards over 2 feet long are pushing the stability of this setup? I would think using the aux table would allow you to use much longer boards. Evidently I'm not picturing the problem right.
Ed

a1gutterman · Post by **a1gutterman** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:21 am

Ed in Tampa wrote:James
Can/will you explain how boards over 2 feet long are pushing the stability of this setup? I would think using the aux table would allow you to use much longer boards. Evidently I'm not picturing the problem right.
Ed

Hi Ed,
I may be on the wrong track here, but I think that Jim might be referring to how a board is clamped on to the jig that holds the board straight up when using the router to cut the dovetails.

scottss · Post by **scottss** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:05 am

Has anyone ever considered the jointech system? http://www.jointech.com/shopsmith.htm
I know I know its not offered by shopsmith but it is a great system. I had an incra ultra and it worked nice but like Jim said I wouldn't like to use it on long boards (to unstable).

timster68 · Post by **timster68** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:56 pm

scottss wrote:Has anyone ever considered the jointech system? http://www.jointech.com/shopsmith.htm
I know I know its not offered by shopsmith but it is a great system. I had an incra ultra and it worked nice but like Jim said I wouldn't like to use it on long boards (to unstable).

So I take it Jointech is similiar in functionality to Incra but can handle larger boards? If you had to choose one over the other which would you take?

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:38 pm

timster68 wrote:So I take it Jointech is similiar in functionality to Incra but can handle larger boards? If you had to choose one over the other which would you take?

Timster68 or Scottss
Can either of you confirm that Tim (A1gutterman) is right that the problems with long boards that James mention is in fact the necessity of holding them vertical?

If so Scott can you tell us how that changes with the Jointech?
Ed

timster68 · Post by **timster68** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:06 pm

Also - what router table comes with the Incra package? Trying to find them on the site is a little tricky - is it possibly this one?

521962
Router Table

james.miller · Post by **james.miller** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:48 pm

The router table is the SS router table. The boards are standing on end sticking straight up, it's workable for longer boards but if they are too long it's difficult. You will have this problem with any router table that I know of. I've heard good things about the Jointech system but haven't used it.

Do your research and then make your decision based on what you will be doing with it, every system excels at something different.

chiroindixon · Post by **chiroindixon** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:18 pm

james.miller wrote:The router table is the SS router table. The boards are standing on end sticking straight up, it's workable for longer boards but if they are too long it's difficult. You will have this problem with any router table that I know of. I've heard good things about the Jointech system but haven't used it.

Do your research and then make your decision based on what you will be doing with it, every system excels at something different.

I have previously posted...."Move the work piece over the tool....or move the tool over the workpiece?" is a key question.

This situation would dictate that the work piece move in a stable horizontal plane past the tool. Hence, the usefulness of the old JointMatic or a Hawk Router Shop. Routing from the horizontal with the workpiece solidly passing across a good flat surface, is the way to go.

This forum has been enamored with the OPR...Great tool. But there are 180 degrees to look at.

Just a thought....Most of my others seem get lost here....

Doc