Problem, double-tilt & lift assist, see what I'm seeing

[BuckeyeDennis]

I've had the larger aluminum bandsaw table for years and have yet to discover any interferences. What have I missed?
Rick

Here's a link to the article where I read the story: http://www.tool-hunter.com/shopsmith-po ... nd-history

Check out the fourth paragraph -- pretty funny!

[JPG]

Check out post #5. And a few after.
https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?p=134867&highlight=eccentric#post134867

[BuckeyeDennis]

When the wife and I had twins at age 40 (bring the total kid-count to three), I proclaimed that they would either kill me or keep me young. So far, so good. I can still beat any pair of my teenager crew (including boyfriends and cousins) at tennis, despite having bum knees and gray hair. But sooner or later ...

So anyway, it seems to me that the ultimate lift assist is to not have to lift at all. And I've been getting the itch to restore a 10ER. Use would be for lathe duty or a dedicated, possibly wall-mount, drill press.

Here's one just down the road that has been listed for a few weeks. http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/3786876590.html

I suspect that it could now be had for $25-$50. But the photographs are poor, and I'm having a hard time figuring out just what is and isn't there. Can anyone tell me if it is worth a look-see this weekend?

[JPG]

It appears to be a 10E(original model) based on the rip fence(which has a sorta rare add on 'upgrade'). The shaper fence is a plus. I do not recognize the stuff on the floor. The way tubes are a bit rusted(but they do not appear 'too much' so). The condition of the step pulleys need to be verified. There is no 'bench'. I do not see any lathe stuff, nor sanding disk. I assume it has at least a drill chuck & key.

$50 would be a 'fair' price IMHO, and $25 a ste .. uh bargain:D.

All that assumes a good motor.

Yes the pix are lousy.

A wall mount drill press is more likely than a lathe since that stuff is not in evidence.

[rpd]

I've been getting the itch to restore a 10ER. Use would be for lathe duty or a dedicated, possibly wall-mount, drill press.

Here's one just down the road that has been listed for a few weeks. http://columbus.craigslist.org/tls/3786876590.html

I suspect that it could now be had for $25-$50. But the photographs are poor, and I'm having a hard time figuring out just what is and isn't there. Can anyone tell me if it is worth a look-see this weekend?

I think your valuation is about right $100 is definitely to high. The photos are poor and from a bad angle ie. looking up from what would normally be the bottom.

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starting at the top I see
- the tailstock with what looks like a wooden extension table so this may be a model 10E.
- the tie bar
- rusty way tubes
- motor and headstock
- carriage
- mitre gauge?
- tool rest for lathe?
- base
- in the center foreground I see the headrest with its legs in the air.

There is something between the legs but I can't make out what it is. Also don't recognize the object on the floor to the left, maybe a shaper fence?

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- table
- table insert for saw
- rip fence

things I can't see are
- drill chuck and key
- sanding disk
- arbors
- drive spur for lathe, i think the dead centre may be in the tailstock
- saw guard (upper)
- pulley guard (upper)
There is also no bench but they didn't come with one when new.
All in all it seams to be reasonably complete. Small stuff like the drill chuck and lathe spur can be borrowed from you MK5/V.

You may want to join the Yahoo Shopsmith10ERusers group, there is lots of documentation in the files section and many knowledgeable people on the forum (some are also members here). It may take a few days for your registration to be processed and if you post a message it can also take a few days before it shows up on the forum. Skip Campbell is the forum owner and does most if not all the moderation so if he is busy or away it takes awhile for things to get approved. The up side of this is there is no spam.

[dusty]

The issue comes not with the double-tilt but with the introduction of the lift assist. If you could move the carriage a couple inches farther to the right, you would have clearance. No, you are not the first. I have posted related comments. With the lift assist, we have lost some depth of cut when cutting bevels. I don't recall how much but it is not insignificant. My solution has been to do bevel cuts on the other machine where I have not and will not install a lift assist.

In the interest of full disclosure, 45° bevel cuts are possible on the Mark V, Model 510/520 with the original lift assist installed.


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The maximum depth of cut is reduced to 1 7/16" (on my 520). The quill has been extended about 1", the lower saw guard has been removed and a special table insert would have to be cut to use it this way.

I must admit, I have cut many bevels with the insert removed just as you see in the photo. Doing so is more hazardous and I do not advise doing so if making cuts where the cutoff is free to fall into the insert. Dust collection is NIL because the lower saw guard is removed.

Shopsmith would most likely not advise doing this.

It is interesting to note that on this forum we frequently talk about one of the weaknesses of the Shopsmith being the tilted table and the many ways to avoid using the tilted table. Now the tilted table is the issue. Ironic isn't it.

[BuckeyeDennis]

My thanks to RPD and JPG for the detailed info on the 10E parts a couple of posts up -- I could not have done as well seeing them in person!

Sorry for the brief hijack -- if I go any further with this machine, I'll start a new thread.