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fredsheldon wrote:My issue with the speed dial was to get the hex wrench lined up with the screw to be able to remove the dial since it's way down inside a dark hole :mad: Is there a secret to performing this task when you have bad eyes and a dark shop?
3/32" allen wrench with the cutout on the speed dial at 11:00 Position. Be sure to seat the allen wrench fully into the set screw to prevent rounding the hole in the set screw. Many times, I find someone has rounded the set screw hole so I have very skinny easy out that I hammer into the set screw to remove it. It is easy to try to really tighten the set screw and round out the inside hole. I find I need to replace most of the speed control handle set screws because of the rounding of the set screw hole. I have to regrind the tip of the 3/32" allen wrench often because of the same problem.
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fredsheldon wrote:My issue with the speed dial was to get the hex wrench lined up with the screw to be able to remove the dial since it's way down inside a dark hole :mad: Is there a secret to performing this task when you have bad eyes and a dark shop?
A flashlight?
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Headstock Repair, Speed Dial

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Some photo aids (I hope). These images are of a 510 Speed Control. Older models may appear a bit different but with regard to the Speed Dial Set Screw they are all the same.

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Use a 3/32" Allen Wrench

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Check the Gear and Set Screw for Damage (check mating gear as well)

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Pocket for the Set Screw (this pocket can also get damaged)
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Speed Dial 012 (Custom).JPG
Speed Dial 012 (Custom).JPG (66.03 KiB) Viewed 2603 times
Speed Dial 011 (Custom).JPG
Speed Dial 011 (Custom).JPG (69.79 KiB) Viewed 2604 times
Speed Dial 004 (Custom).JPG
Speed Dial 004 (Custom).JPG (100.4 KiB) Viewed 2605 times
Speed Dial 006 (Custom).JPG
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As can the shaft. Resist the urge to sand or grind the shaft. DAMHIKT :eek:

If the burrs are small carefully de-burr. I wound up grinding mine to the point that the dial would not sit squarely and had to replace the shaft.

I recommend some blue loctite on the threads of the set screw to keep in from vibrating loose.
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Had the same problem. Exactly the same. It is a simple (but not easy) fix. You can do it with no $ spent. Once you get it set look up how to set the high speed dial on this site. This is also simple but what is posted here is not how SS recommends doing it (as I recall) but is much better. Keep us posted.

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db5 wrote:Had the same problem. Exactly the same. It is a simple (but not easy) fix. You can do it with no $ spent. Once you get it set look up how to set the high speed dial on this site. This is also simple but what is posted here is not how SS recommends doing it (as I recall) but is much better. Keep us posted.

Simon Eng is for motor rebuild.
I do not recall any Shopsmith 'instructions' for a high speed adjustment. Nick in the saw dust sessions however . . . ;)
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[quote="JPG40504"]I do not recall any Shopsmith 'instructions' for a high speed adjustment. Nick in the saw dust sessions however . . . ]



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http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/prod ... e_1_10.pdf
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Well another thing not seen before!

Thank you for posting the link!:)
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fredsheldon wrote:My issue with the speed dial was to get the hex wrench lined up with the screw to be able to remove the dial since it's way down inside a dark hole :mad: Is there a secret to performing this task when you have bad eyes and a dark shop?
I shone a small flashlight into the gap between the back of the dial and the body of the headstock, this lit the inside of the dial enough that I could see the set screw clearly. Without that light I also found it impossible to line up the hex key.
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rpd wrote:I shone a small flashlight into the gap between the back of the dial and the body of the headstock, this lit the inside of the dial enough that I could see the set screw clearly. Without that light I also found it impossible to line up the hex key.

Y'all did notice Dusty's use of a long allen 'screw driver'? :cool:

Much much easier than the short "L" wrench.:eek: Especially putting it back on.:)
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