My First Attempt at Bowl Making
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- fredsheldon
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Turning 8 more bowls from a log that Heath gave me when he picked up his Sawsmith a few weeks back. We don't know what type of wood it is. Can anybody provide a clue from this photo? I'm going to guess Red Oak. I know it's very hard, the first 5 bowls took all day yesterday to turn because I had to sharpen my tools more often than with the green wood from my last log. I also just ordered a set of Shopsmith Easy Wood Tools Carbide-Cutter Chisels that are on special until Tuesday. I'll let you know how they work.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/specials/7DU418.htm
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
- JPG
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If the end grain is 'porous' it is likely red oak.
I assume that is all one tree. Questionable due to color variations, but that may be caused by 'illumination'.
I assume that is all one tree. Questionable due to color variations, but that may be caused by 'illumination'.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
- fredsheldon
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Steps to produce a completed bowl.
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First thing I do is trim the blanks round on the bandsaw.
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Then I attach a 3" face plate, turn the blank round and cut a tenon so you can attach the blank to your chuck. I had to use 2 extensions on the live center to clear the lift assist bracket.
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Then mount the chuck to the tenon.
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Now mount the chuck on the spindle and remove the face plate.
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You are now ready to turn the interior of the bowl using the live center to steady the work.
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First thing I do is trim the blanks round on the bandsaw.
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Then I attach a 3" face plate, turn the blank round and cut a tenon so you can attach the blank to your chuck. I had to use 2 extensions on the live center to clear the lift assist bracket.
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Then mount the chuck to the tenon.
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Now mount the chuck on the spindle and remove the face plate.
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You are now ready to turn the interior of the bowl using the live center to steady the work.
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
- fredsheldon
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Turning the interior of the bowl.
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I leave a tower in the center of the work to support it.
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I check for thickness as I get near the finished size.
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I remove the live center and prepare to remove the supporting tower.
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I knock out the tower with a hammer.
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Then clean up what's left over, sand and store in a bag to dry.
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I leave a tower in the center of the work to support it.
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I check for thickness as I get near the finished size.
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I remove the live center and prepare to remove the supporting tower.
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I knock out the tower with a hammer.
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Then clean up what's left over, sand and store in a bag to dry.
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
I must be spending too much time on Facebook, because I just spent several seconds looking for the "Like" button! 
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
- terrydowning
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Any update on this round of bowls? I've been anxious to see how they turn out!
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
- fredsheldon
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All Out of the Bags
I have removed all 18 of my bowls from their bags that I have turned from green wood and turned down to their final sizes and will now be sanding them smooth and applying a Mylands Cellulose Sanding Sealer followed by a High Build Friction Polish. I have already finished 6 bowls so far and will post pictures later today.
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Some seem to still be round but others have taken on an oval shape. Sanding is a little shaky but getting done as long as I keep the rpm's down to 400. So far there are no cracks so I think my plan to turn the bowls down to their final size before bagging them for a few months has worked out. I guess some of them are still not completely dry, but I will deal with that if and when it happens.
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Some seem to still be round but others have taken on an oval shape. Sanding is a little shaky but getting done as long as I keep the rpm's down to 400. So far there are no cracks so I think my plan to turn the bowls down to their final size before bagging them for a few months has worked out. I guess some of them are still not completely dry, but I will deal with that if and when it happens.
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
- fredsheldon
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Finished 8 of 18 Today
Here are the first 8 of the 18 that I needed to sand and apply finish.
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Used Mylands Cellulose Sanding Sealer followed by High Build Friction Polish.
Heath, the one on the right front is from your Red Oak log. It came out very well.
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Used Mylands Cellulose Sanding Sealer followed by High Build Friction Polish.
Heath, the one on the right front is from your Red Oak log. It came out very well.
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
- fredsheldon
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Applying Finish
Here are the steps I took to apply the finish after sanding smooth starting with 80 grit and finishing with 600 grit.
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Brush on a heavy coat of Cellulose Sanding Sealer and let dry for 15 minutes. I created a mixture of 1/2 Cellulose Sanding Sealer and 1/2 Lacquer Thinner and stored in a mason jar to prevent the lacquer thinner from evaporating.
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Using 00 Steel Wool remove most of the sealer on the surface. Apply a 2nd coat and repeat. Wipe clean with paper towel or clean cloth.
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Apply heavy coat of Friction Polish with folded paper towel. Using the wet folded paper towel start polishing with lathe turning at low speed.
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After a few minutes, switch to a dry folded paper towel and increase the lathe speed and buff with heavy pressure until heat can be felt.
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Here is a Red Oak bowl after applying the finish. This one goes to Heath as a reward for providing a Red Oak log from which I have created 8 bowls.
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Brush on a heavy coat of Cellulose Sanding Sealer and let dry for 15 minutes. I created a mixture of 1/2 Cellulose Sanding Sealer and 1/2 Lacquer Thinner and stored in a mason jar to prevent the lacquer thinner from evaporating.
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Using 00 Steel Wool remove most of the sealer on the surface. Apply a 2nd coat and repeat. Wipe clean with paper towel or clean cloth.
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Apply heavy coat of Friction Polish with folded paper towel. Using the wet folded paper towel start polishing with lathe turning at low speed.
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After a few minutes, switch to a dry folded paper towel and increase the lathe speed and buff with heavy pressure until heat can be felt.
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Here is a Red Oak bowl after applying the finish. This one goes to Heath as a reward for providing a Red Oak log from which I have created 8 bowls.
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Fred Sheldon
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.
The Woodlands, Tx
'52 10ER # 60869 (restored in 2012, used as a dedicated drill press), '52 10ER # 88712 (restored 01/2013), 52 10ER # 71368 (in process of restoring), '83 500 Shorty with OPR installed, '83 520 PowerPro with Lift Assist, 6" Joiner, 6" Belt Sander, 18" Jig Saw, 11" Band Saw, 12" ProPlaner, SS Crosscut Table. SS Dust Collector, Hitachi 1/2" router, Work Sharp 3000 with all attachement, Nova G3 Chuck, Universal Tool Rest, Appalachia Tool Works Sled.