Planer knife setting (I originally put this in the wrond place, oops)
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Planer knife setting (I originally put this in the wrong place, oops)
I'm just finishing up a complete re-do of a Shopsmith thickness planer and, after a loose assembly of the cutter head, I'm ready to set the knife height but I did not get a setting gauge with the planer. and I've watched sawdust Session #20 showing the alternate method.
I have a dial gauge but would have to make up a jig to do it that way and before I take the time to do it, I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of a scale PDF of the setting gauge that might be cut from some thin plywood or plastic.
Maybe that wouldn't be precise enough. Just wondering.
Also, He mentioned that the knife height above the cutterhead is .0132. The video isn't real clear, but I'm guessing that is the distance measured from the tip of the sharp side of the knife directly down along the knife to the cutterhead body. If that's so, has anyone just made a little block that (.0132) thickness & held it to the knife & cutterhead & set the knife accordingly?
I have a dial gauge but would have to make up a jig to do it that way and before I take the time to do it, I thought I'd ask if anyone knows of a scale PDF of the setting gauge that might be cut from some thin plywood or plastic.
Maybe that wouldn't be precise enough. Just wondering.
Also, He mentioned that the knife height above the cutterhead is .0132. The video isn't real clear, but I'm guessing that is the distance measured from the tip of the sharp side of the knife directly down along the knife to the cutterhead body. If that's so, has anyone just made a little block that (.0132) thickness & held it to the knife & cutterhead & set the knife accordingly?
My dad's 1951 10er, 2 more 10er's, same vintage, a Goldie MK5, a 510 shortie with 34inch tubes, bandsaw, jointer, jigsaw, belt sander, a ton of small SS goodies and still looking...you just can't have enough Shopsmith stuff
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I misspoke
In my description of the measurement, I meant to say from the bevel side of knife straight down to the cutter head.
My dad's 1951 10er, 2 more 10er's, same vintage, a Goldie MK5, a 510 shortie with 34inch tubes, bandsaw, jointer, jigsaw, belt sander, a ton of small SS goodies and still looking...you just can't have enough Shopsmith stuff
As I expected, I searched many drawers and cabinets without finding any planer knife setting gauges. I know I have at least 2 some where. I did take measurements on the cutter head in my planer and looked at about a dozen planer blades that had not been cleaned. The distance from the cutter head in parallel to the knife edge was .260" +- .005". This was from the front of the blade. The distance from the tip of the blade to the wedges, back of blade, was from .240" to .255". I firmly believe if you set the knives .250" from the cutter head, you will be well within the ballpark. I believe the feed rollers will handle this setting without any problems. Of course, the key is setting all the knives at the same height. I am sure you can make a wooden jig spanning the cross bars with a notch for each bar and an adjusting screw over the knife edge that you can move to get the right knife setting. Once the screw is set, then adjust all knives to the same height. Very similar to the metal knife setting gauge.
Bill Mayo bill.mayo@verizon.net
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
Shopsmith owner since 73. Sell, repair and rebuild Shopsmith, Total Shop & Wood Master headstocks, SPTs, attachments, accessories and parts. US Navy 1955-1975 (FTCS/E-8)
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Thanks!
Bill, good to talk w/ you today, as always. I think I get your meaning as to where to measure.
Mike, Thanks for the pic and the measurements. Looks like all I need to do is to make my print of that to the dimensions you gave me & trace to a piece of plastic.
Mike, Thanks for the pic and the measurements. Looks like all I need to do is to make my print of that to the dimensions you gave me & trace to a piece of plastic.
My dad's 1951 10er, 2 more 10er's, same vintage, a Goldie MK5, a 510 shortie with 34inch tubes, bandsaw, jointer, jigsaw, belt sander, a ton of small SS goodies and still looking...you just can't have enough Shopsmith stuff
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The only critical parts are circled and the spacing between them.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
If you have a few things on your shopsmith order list to spread the shipping cost out I'd just buy one.
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/item ... =Find+Item
Ed
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/item ... =Find+Item
Ed
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I did the math to resize the pic and cut out a template from a small piece of aluminum, did the rough cuts with a small hacksaw & carefully filed down to the lines.
I set the knives last night & tested on a couple of boards with great results. If I were keeping the planer, I would definitely order a gauge, but I need to get it listed on ebay to help with some bills. (I have another planer & while I've never been opposed to keeping more Shopsmith stuff than I need, we're planning a move to South Carolina soon and really need to thin out my extra stuff)
Thanks to all who added to this thread.
I set the knives last night & tested on a couple of boards with great results. If I were keeping the planer, I would definitely order a gauge, but I need to get it listed on ebay to help with some bills. (I have another planer & while I've never been opposed to keeping more Shopsmith stuff than I need, we're planning a move to South Carolina soon and really need to thin out my extra stuff)
Thanks to all who added to this thread.
My dad's 1951 10er, 2 more 10er's, same vintage, a Goldie MK5, a 510 shortie with 34inch tubes, bandsaw, jointer, jigsaw, belt sander, a ton of small SS goodies and still looking...you just can't have enough Shopsmith stuff
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My dad's 1951 10er, 2 more 10er's, same vintage, a Goldie MK5, a 510 shortie with 34inch tubes, bandsaw, jointer, jigsaw, belt sander, a ton of small SS goodies and still looking...you just can't have enough Shopsmith stuff