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Well the wood working show in Sacramento was pretty good. Lots of great stuff. SS did have a both so I ordered the 520 upgrade along with the power pro. My pockets are a little light at the moment, but I think it made sense rather than buying a Mark VII with would have sent me back another 1200 plus 500 for shipping
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They quit making Mark VII's 50 years ago!;) Current model is a Mark 7.chris jay wrote:Well the wood working show in Sacramento was pretty good. Lots of great stuff. SS did have a both so I ordered the 520 upgrade along with the power pro. My pockets are a little light at the moment, but I think it made sense rather than buying a Mark VII with would have sent me back another 1200 plus 500 for shipping
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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SS should have had the sense to not recycle a model ID... 
Several farm tractor manufactures have done that and it makes a parts department nightmare.
They should have generated another function (maybe a paperweight
) and called it a Mark VIII.
I am sure they had reasons for starting back up with the Mark V but I still think that it would have been better (all other things being equal) to have cured the two problems with the Mark VII and started there... An aluminum cam and an aluminum rack gear would have cured its problems.
The other thing they failed at was not designing a quick easy to use lock to keep some kid or nosey neighbor (or an idiot BIL) from turning the speed control dial without the motor running. How many times a week do we warn some new guy about the speed control?
I love my Shopsmith's but I do get really annoyed with companies that fail to correct weaknesses as soon as they pop up. Sometimes it is $$$$ and sometimes it is just blind ego.
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Several farm tractor manufactures have done that and it makes a parts department nightmare.
They should have generated another function (maybe a paperweight
) and called it a Mark VIII.I am sure they had reasons for starting back up with the Mark V but I still think that it would have been better (all other things being equal) to have cured the two problems with the Mark VII and started there... An aluminum cam and an aluminum rack gear would have cured its problems.
The other thing they failed at was not designing a quick easy to use lock to keep some kid or nosey neighbor (or an idiot BIL) from turning the speed control dial without the motor running. How many times a week do we warn some new guy about the speed control?
I love my Shopsmith's but I do get really annoyed with companies that fail to correct weaknesses as soon as they pop up. Sometimes it is $$$$ and sometimes it is just blind ego.
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I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
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Francis Robinson
I did not equip with Shopsmiths in spite of the setups but because of them.
1 1988 - Mark V 510 (bought new), 4 Poly vee 1 1/8th HP Mark V's, Mark VII, 1 Mark V Mini, 1 Frankensmith, 1 10-ER, 1 Mark V Push-me-Pull-me Drillpress, SS bandsaw, belt sander, jointer, jigsaw, shaper attach, mortising attach, TS-3650 Rigid tablesaw, RAS, 6" long bed jointer, Foley/Belsaw Planer/molder/ripsaw, 1" sander, oscillating spindle/belt sander, Scroll saw, Woodmizer sawmill
robinson46176 wrote:SS should have had the sense to not recycle a model ID...
Several farm tractor manufactures have done that and it makes a parts department nightmare.
They should have generated another function (maybe a paperweight
I am sure they had reasons for starting back up with the Mark V but I still think that it would have been better (all other things being equal) to have cured the two problems with the Mark VII and started there... An aluminum cam and an aluminum rack gear would have cured its problems.
The other thing they failed at was not designing a quick easy to use lock to keep some kid or nosey neighbor (or an idiot BIL) from turning the speed control dial without the motor running. How many times a week do we warn some new guy about the speed control?
I love my Shopsmith's but I do get really annoyed with companies that fail to correct weaknesses as soon as they pop up. Sometimes it is $$$$ and sometimes it is just blind ego.
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Yes they really need some help in their marketing and promotion area. The product is great and has a sting following. If marketed better, they could really increase their sales
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Despite themselves they still manage to do business !chris jay wrote:Yes they really need some help in their marketing and promotion area. The product is great and has a sting following. If marketed better, they could really increase their sales
Jerry Penny
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SS 520 SN#518424 2000 (reversed motor), Shopsmith 10 E (shorty) fully restored by Skip with DC motor, Shopsmith 10 ER fully restored by Skip with DC motor, Shopsmith 10 ER (under going restoration), Greenie Shorty sanding station, Greenie Mini jointer station, SS Bandsaw power station, SS Planner, SS overhead pin router, SS Belt Sander, SS Strip Sander,, SS Jigsaw, SS Dust Collector, Ringmaster, and still having fun looking for more !
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The Woodlands, Tx
SS 520 SN#518424 2000 (reversed motor), Shopsmith 10 E (shorty) fully restored by Skip with DC motor, Shopsmith 10 ER fully restored by Skip with DC motor, Shopsmith 10 ER (under going restoration), Greenie Shorty sanding station, Greenie Mini jointer station, SS Bandsaw power station, SS Planner, SS overhead pin router, SS Belt Sander, SS Strip Sander,, SS Jigsaw, SS Dust Collector, Ringmaster, and still having fun looking for more !
I think it ain't so easy. They are competing not only with the all the other tool manufacturers but even against themselves because they have made something like a million of these machines and, if you check ebay and craigslist, there's no shortage of them, many of them in excellent condition and selling for a fraction of the new price.chris jay wrote:Yes they really need some help in their marketing and promotion area. The product is great and has a sting following. If marketed better, they could really increase their sales
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
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Heaven knows, they have already had more than their fair share of free marketing advise - all of which they seem to be ignoring.
If we could get their attention, maybe they would pay us some of those big marketing fees for that same "free" advise. You know how it goes - if it is worth having, it is worth paying big bucks to acquire.
If we could get their attention, maybe they would pay us some of those big marketing fees for that same "free" advise. You know how it goes - if it is worth having, it is worth paying big bucks to acquire.
"Making Sawdust Safely"
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Yes for sure, however if I hadn't purchased my used Mark V I would've invested in the Mark 7 for a little more money. It would've save me a lot of time. No regrets with what I have , and what's coming. I'm self employed and marketing today is huge for any businessdusty wrote:Heaven knows, they have already had more than their fair share of free marketing advise - all of which they seem to be ignoring.
If we could get their attention, maybe they would pay us some of those big marketing fees for that same "free" advise. You know how it goes - if it is worth having, it is worth paying big bucks to acquire. POINT - Mark 7.
There is one person here that is happy for you with your purchases. ENJOY!:)
I have no comment about Shopsmith's marketing. Gave that up a few years back when set straight by Nick.
The company seems to be struggling along, even when many predicted their demise. Good wishes to Shopsmith!!!!
I have no comment about Shopsmith's marketing. Gave that up a few years back when set straight by Nick.
The company seems to be struggling along, even when many predicted their demise. Good wishes to Shopsmith!!!!
Octogenarian's have an earned right to be a curmudgeon.
Chuck in Lancaster, CA
Chuck in Lancaster, CA