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highwing182 wrote:BTW, the Johnson paste wax I bought at HD does not say "Original" and I could not find any that did. Is this a problem?
I bought a can of JPW at HD just a couple weeks ago, and it was indeed "Original Formula". Check to see if your can has a diagonal red stripe on it, with some unobtrusive script that says "The Original Formula". It's easy to miss, but you can just make it out in the photo on the link below if you zoom way in.

http://t.homedepot.com/p/SC-Johnson-16- ... 100154748/
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I've never seen JPW that wasn't "Original Formula."
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Y'all are correct on the HD wax. It says "The Original Formula" in the red band. Guess I was looking for something more obvious based on some older comments on this forum.

Got the belt cover off the headstock. Looks good in there. Sheaves look clean. Belts don't seem cracked. No rust on the motor shaft spring or motor housing from what I can see. Should I drop the motor pan for a closer look?

There is a very light dusting of iron oxide on the lower quarter of the inside of the belt cover. Should I polish that off or just leave it alone?

While turning the sanding wheel everything seems to roll including the motor. At the slowest setting the motor drive belt seems too loose but we will find out when I finally bump it.

All the table and headrest posts move freely but need rubbing with a Scotchbrite and waxing. I'm curious about the recommendation to brush, wax, and polish inside the sleeves that these six posts fit. How do you polish inside the cylinders?
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I use a bottle brush that got repurposed from the kitchen to clean inside of cylinders such as this and then a pulled a waxed rag thru the cylinders to distribute some wax. Then, in the same manner, polish the waxed cylinders with a clean rag.

Go easy with the wax here. You do not want an excess. All it will do is mix with saw dust and create an unwanted mess.
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What a find. You need to go buy a lotto ticket with that kind of luck. Pictures Please. As stated go nice and easy and ask all the question you want these are the best people ever to help you get up and running. I am excited and glad for you. Have FUN. :D
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I've twice oiled the holes on the lower and intermediate shafts and then spun the sanding wheel while cycling the speed controller. I'm now waiting for that to flow everywhere it will. I am worried about the "lifetime" sealed bearings since these have sat for 33 years packed with new grease. I may get a heater and warm these as best I can before rolling the motor later today.

As for the quill, the original manual says to apply a light coat of grease on the teeth and a little oil on top. But experience says this will just attract sawdust.

Should I lubricate the quill or wax it?
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I have a question for you... Can you walk past it yet without breaking into a little dance? :D :D :D :D


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Congratulations on your find and welcome to the forums! Better get out a can of insect repellent because you're about to get bitten by the Shopsmith bug! :eek: :D
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I would wax/polish the quill, and apply some jpw with a tooth brush to the quill teeth.

The table and SPT mounting bores can be waxed and polished by using your finger and a polishing rag.

I would wax the table posts gear with jpw and tooth brush also.

Everything else that is a sliding surface needs jpw polished.

The table crank can be added. I will attempt to post a link to how I did that. https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=3302

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highwing182 wrote:I was surprised to be the recipient of an unopened, never used 1981 MkV 500 this past weekend. ...

The fixed table posts are clean. Before I bump the motor I will pull the belt cover and check belts and related hardware and oil the two holes as directed.

My questions are:

1. What material and finish are the table posts made of?
2. Is wax the best protectant for these posts?
3. Should I use a little grease on the table post teeth even though it moves freely?
4. Should grease be used anywhere else after so long a wait for startup?
5. For the main chrome rails, should they be rubbed with a blue scratchless scotchbrite before waxing?
6. Any other guidance before bumping the motor?

Thanks for any help you folks can provide.
You have been given good information, however I wanted to give a little more info.--
You said you will oil the two holes as directed. I want to say that more oil than ou can get through those holes is a good thing and will not only allow a smoother speed change, but also help to preserve the control sheave end button bearing and clip. \

Also I would like to say that a little wheel bearing grease on the pork chop rack will not hurt a thing. Yes, the grease will attract saw dust, but a regular cleaning every 10 hours of operation will allow you to remove the dust and clean the rack.
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