Band Saw Tires

runninglate · Post by **runninglate** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:24 pm

Good Day Everyone,

I bought the urethane bandsaw tires and they keep coming off of the bandsaw. Will not go into how many blades I have ruined and pieces of wood that ended up in the scrape.

I cleaned the wheels, run the shopsmith at appropriate speed, have tension according to recommendations but the tires gradually work there way off of the wheels.

Any suggestions or better yet what type of glue is best to just glue these in place?

Or is it best to just buy the old style tires and put those back on?

Thanks...........

danr · Post by **danr** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:46 pm

runninglate wrote:Good Day Everyone,

I bought the urethane bandsaw tires and they keep coming off of the bandsaw. ...
Thanks...........

When I replace the tires on my previous BS, I cleaned the old wheels with a wire wheel and brush. Seems like I heated the new urethane tires in hot water, whatever the directions suggested. It took some prying and effort just the same. Used no lubricant besides water. If the urethane tires were purchased from SS then they should fit snug.
Dan

billmayo · Post by **billmayo** » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:02 pm

runninglate wrote:Good Day Everyone,

I bought the urethane bandsaw tires and they keep coming off of the bandsaw. Will not go into how many blades I have ruined and pieces of wood that ended up in the scrape.

I cleaned the wheels, run the shopsmith at appropriate speed, have tension according to recommendations but the tires gradually work there way off of the wheels.

Any suggestions or better yet what type of glue is best to just glue these in place?

Or is it best to just buy the old style tires and put those back on?

Thanks...........

The urethane bandsaw tires should be very difficult to install. I have to repair problems for customers when the 1/2" bandsaw blade got really hot, the tires would loosen with the blade slightly embedded into the tire so that several tires get destroyed when this happen. This was a few years ago when some of the urehane bandsaw tires being sold was a bit too long and poorer quality. At that time, if the urethane bandsaw tire could be saved, I would put a dowel under the tire and spray a glue made for urethane products between the tire and wheel. My customers did not have a problem after I did this fix for their urethane bandsaw tires. I did change back to the black tires for two customers as the black tires were quite cheap at that time. I quit installing the urethane bandsaw tires for customers about 4 years ago because of these problems. I still like the original black bandsaw tires which I spray with belt conditioner which seems to keep them from cracking and it appears to give additional life to these tires.

Soapbox time. I have been installing sets of the Blue Max (lifetime warranty) bandsaw tires (Ebay seller) for the past year with great success after I had used all the black bandsaw tires that I stocked. Quick installation with no glue or hot water. They come with a tool to help install them.

runninglate · Post by **runninglate** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:58 am

d.rositer wrote:When I replace the tires on my previous BS, I cleaned the old wheels with a wire wheel and brush. Seems like I heated the new urethane tires in hot water, whatever the directions suggested. It took some prying and effort just the same. Used no lubricant besides water. If the urethane tires were purchased from SS then they should fit snug.
Dan

I bought the tires through Shopsmith and was able to get them on without heating them up. Of course it was summer this is Florida so guess they were already warm. I did measure them as someone mentioned and they are the right size. It is the bottom tire that comes all the way off, the top just starts to come off the wheel. Did get out a straight edge and everything seems to be lined up and where it should be.

runninglate · Post by **runninglate** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:03 am

billmayo wrote:The urethane bandsaw tires should be very difficult to install. I have to repair problems for customers when the 1/2" bandsaw blade got really hot, the tires would loosen with the blade slightly embedded into the tire so that several tires get destroyed when this happen. This was a few years ago when some of the urehane bandsaw tires being sold was a bit too long and poorer quality. At that time, if the urethane bandsaw tire could be saved, I would put a dowel under the tire and spray a glue made for urethane products between the tire and wheel. My customers did not have a problem after I did this fix for their urethane bandsaw tires. I did change back to the black tires for two customers as the black tires were quite cheap at that time. I quit installing the urethane bandsaw tires for customers about 4 years ago because of these problems. I still like the original black bandsaw tires which I spray with belt conditioner which seems to keep them from cracking and it appears to give additional life to these tires.

Soapbox time. I have been installing sets of the Blue Max (lifetime warranty) bandsaw tires (Ebay seller) for the past year with great success after I had used all the black bandsaw tires that I stocked. Quick installation with no glue or hot water. They come with a tool to help install them.

Thanks for the recommendation. Guess the final straw was when the tire came off while I was in the middle of resawing for a project I am making for my wife. Think I may go back to the black tires or take your advice and change brands.

runninglate · Post by **runninglate** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:06 am

d.rositer wrote:When I replace the tires on my previous BS, I cleaned the old wheels with a wire wheel and brush. Seems like I heated the new urethane tires in hot water, whatever the directions suggested. It took some prying and effort just the same. Used no lubricant besides water. If the urethane tires were purchased from SS then they should fit snug.
Dan

Thanks for the info. I did not need to use any lubricant to get them on. It was a bit of a struggle but it became a personal thing where I was going to get the tires on no matter what it took.....*S* And actually the whole installation was time consuming but not a major project. Probably took me longer to clean the wheels then it did to get the new tires on.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:39 am

runninglate wrote: . . . Did get out a straight edge and everything seems to be lined up and where it should be.

You are aware the top wheel is canted!:)

i.e. the straight edge does not set flush with both wheels.

runninglate · Post by **runninglate** » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:03 pm

JPG40504 wrote:You are aware the top wheel is canted!:)

i.e. the straight edge does not set flush with both wheels.

I just wanted to make sure with the straight edge that nothing was really bent. I knew the top wheel was canted though really did not know by how much. Did not see anything terribly out of alignment. Just checking all of the possibilities.

But thanks for the additional information. Can always use help though sometimes I think I am beyond help,,,,,,,,,lol:D