Carriage Stop Ring, & Blade "Zero"

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Thanks Dusty for the pictures. Looks like I have the top picture Mark V Model 510 then. So I should be able to upgrade that with no problems then. Thanks my friend and I am sure to have more questions in the future.
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As far as the rubber ring, for which I believe the proper technical name is "thingy" ;) it is just one more place where the old Mark VII had received an improvement... Just slide the carriage over and latch. :)


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[quote="robinson46176"]As far as the rubber ring, for which I believe the proper technical name is "thingy" ]


OMG!!!:eek: Now we will have to explain what a Mark VII is!:D




Make that 4 different fence versions.;)
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Post by Fred Grover »

Thanks again everyone and to update you all I now have the Rubber Ring Stop Collar on the machine and it was a pretty easy job to do. The pictures for the table Dusty helped and my saw blade now lines up easier.
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Post by freedomlives »

So that's what the stop ring is! I thought it was that rubbery piece around the quill! I need to find some 50mm hose then and make one, at least for that security purpose of preventing damage on a headstock crash-- something I'm bound to do sometime...
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freedomlives wrote:So that's what the stop ring is! I thought it was that rubbery piece around the quill! I need to find some 50mm hose then and make one, at least for that security purpose of preventing damage on a headstock crash-- something I'm bound to do sometime...
The way to prevent that damage is to get the headspace functioning correctly.;)
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Re: Carriage Stop Ring, & Blade "Zero"

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This is an old thread but thought I would share my new carriage rings based off of JPG's suggestion to use a 1.5" PVC coupler cut down to size. I used 2" PVC and it turned out nicely with some 1/4" felt pads I had lying around. Not too loose and Not too snug, Just Right. :)

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I have the rubber carriage ring, but always felt it was a bit inaccurate since it is somewhat pliable so felt the PVC rings on both way tubes might allow a little more precise repeatability in terms of setting the blade in the same spot every time.

We'll see if it works. :)

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The 'original' Mark 5 carriage stop ring was hard plastic. I do not consider the rubber replacement an improvement nor a 'head crash' preventer.
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Re: Carriage Stop Ring, & Blade "Zero"

Post by Sazerac81 »

Didn't want to start up the debate again on the whether the carriage ring helped prevent "head crash" issues. :) Just wanted to share based off of your previous share of the PVC rings.

I imagine anything there that is not hard metal is better than nothing at all in the event of a slippage event or carriage lock mind slip. :D

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Sazerac81 wrote:Didn't want to start up the debate again on the whether the carriage ring helped prevent "head crash" issues. :) Just wanted to share based off of your previous share of the PVC rings.

I imagine anything there that is not hard metal is better than nothing at all in the event of a slippage event or carriage lock mind slip. :D

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There is no 'debate'. :)

It simply is inadequate. ;)
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