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Speed Dial Question and Lathe Question

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Hello everyone. Can you tell me if it is normal for the Speed Dial to turn harder when slowing it down than when it turns easier when speeding it up? I have a Mark V with the 510 Table upgrade and when I turn the Speed Dial to faster it turns easy but when I go to turn it to slow it down it seems to turn a little harder. If it is not supposed to be that way can you tell me or show me how to take it apart and lube it up or whatever might need to be done? Thank you.

Now for the Lathe. I bought the Duplicator DVD so I can learn more about that but do you know of any free videos specifically for the Shopsmith Lathe for Beginners ? Like setting it up from start to finish and mounting the wood, tool accessories like shucks, center cups, etc. ? Thanks and maybe someone can shed some light here for me. I appreciate everyones help and hope you are having a great day. God Bless.
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Fred;
It will be a little harder to turn it back down to slow. Going to high the control sheave moves away from the belt and makes the V belt go slack and the spring on the motor sheave takes up the slack. Going to the slow setting the belt is compressed against the control sheave and the belt has to be forced up on the sheave and the spring on the motor shaft has to be compressed. This will take some additional force. Not too much that so that you think you are going to break the handle on the speed dial but SOME SMALL additional force.
Now for the lathe. Doug Reid has a bunch of videos on U tube and involve lathe turning. The SS lathe function is not vastly different from any other lathe. A device for spinning a chunk of wood and supporting a cutting tool. Most lathe functions can be applied to the SS.
If you want to get chucks or other stuff, my suggestion is to get some practice and then decide what you need. If you do go for a chuck, get a good one, don't skimp. The Oneway or the Nova would be good choices.Try to find a turning group in your area and get some mentoring.
Come back here for more info.
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Post by beeg »

The fact is, that ya want to turn the speed control down slowly. So as to knot cause damage to it.
Here's a listing of woodturning clubs in Iowa you can find.

http://www.woodturner.org/community/cha ... apters.asp
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Post by Fred Grover »

Bill and Bob. Thank you.

Bill then my Speed Dial is working correctly. It does not feel like the handle is going to break when slowing it down just a little more effort then when speeding it up. Yes, if I ever get a Chuck for the Lathe Bill I will not skimp on it. Safety comes first in my book. I might upload a picture to show you what I have now which it is not a chuck it goes on the headstock and then there is one for the tail that has sharp points on them. I think they would get me started for turning some wood just not sure if it will hold to round wood from a square. Maybe you or someone can answer that for me to and if I need to upload pictures I am more than happy to.

Bob thanks for the link. I found one but it is about a 110 miles away from where I live and that is quite a trip to go and learn. They have meetings in the middle of the week and I cannot make those. Might try sometime though.

Thanks again to you both and maybe there will be more suggestions which I am always up to and enjoy reading and learning.
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Post by wa2crk »

Fred;
You may want to give it a good cleaning (inside the headstock) and a thorough lubrication. THis may make it move a little easier.
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Post by charlese »

Hi Fred! One of the most overlooked lubrication is oiling of the motor sheave shaft . It is not enough to oil only through the hole that is hiding in the spring. It is a better thing to put the Shopsmith into the drill press position, run the speed up to high and and flood oil the shaft. Let the oil soak/seep between the shaft and sleeve. Then lower to saw position and by hand slide the outer sheave out several times until you feel it sliding more easily. Don't let the sheave bang back into the motor sheave.

After this operation you should find that speed lowering is easier. Your pork chop will thank you!
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Post by bobgroh »

Fred Grover wrote:Hello everyone. .. snip...

Now for the Lathe. I bought the Duplicator DVD so I can learn more about that but do you know of any free videos specifically for the Shopsmith Lathe for Beginners ? Like setting it up from start to finish and mounting the wood, tool accessories like shucks, center cups, etc. ? Thanks and maybe someone can shed some light here for me. I appreciate everyones help and hope you are having a great day. God Bless.
Lots and lots of good options out there for using the SS as a lathe. Not so much in the line of video's but several good books. Starting with the Self Study Course (a loose leaf manual that Shopsmith used to provide with the Mark V's) - lesson 9 and 10. Then there is the SS Owners Manual (pg. 117 on).

And then there is the book "Power Tool Woodworking for Everyone" by R.J. DeCristoforo (look on Amazon) specifically Chapter 4.

Back to video's: go to YouTube and search for 'shopsmith lathe setup' and you will get several hits to take a look at.

As other's have commented - just figure out the fundamentals of getting your wood on the SS, where to position your tool rest and after that it is pretty much like any other lathe. Oh, and do remember to keep your chisels sharpened!!!! Experience talking here.
Bob Groh
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Post by Mike907 »

Hi Fred,

I would highly recommend the DVD Woodturning - Getting Started Right, by Alan Lacer at alanlacer.com. Actually, I highly recommend all of his DVDs. They are a bit pricey, but they are also the best that I have seen. This one is not specifically about turning on a Shopsmith, but it is full of information about getting started. I also second Beeg's suggestion to find a local club.

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Post by Fred Grover »

Thanks everyone for the suggestions on oiling the sheaves and the Lathe References Materials and Links.

Bob I just got the Manual and planning on reading it a few times. I don't have "Power Tool Woodworking for Everyone" by R.J. DeCristoforo but I might look into getting that sometime.

Mike thanks for the link to that DVD. I watched a couple of his sample videos from doing a search but it did not appear he was using a Shopsmith but has some great information also. Might have to purchase that in the future too.

I would just like to say thanks to everyone on this forum for taking the time to help others learn. If we cannot all help each other then in my book there is something wrong and this is a great forum board to be a part of. Thanks again everyone for teaching me about my Shopsmith and a few other things. I have done some woodworking but new to a Lathe and the Shopsmith Mark V. So I am taking the time to learn and jumping in there to get some small projects done in the near future.
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Post by beeg »

Well here's another idea for ya about turning on a shopsmith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glMWj2AamC8
SS 500(09/1980), DC3300, jointer, bandsaw, belt sander, Strip Sander, drum sanders,molder, dado, biscuit joiner, universal lathe tool rest, Oneway talon chuck, router bits & chucks and a De Walt 735 planer,a #5,#6, block planes. ALL in a 100 square foot shop.
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Bob
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