Differences between 520 and mark 7 tables

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JPG40504 wrote:A 'Mark 7' is a late model 520 with dual tilt 'upgrade' and Power Pro. There are two versions of the 520 main table(center section ribbing).

"rod slots"???? I assume the inside top of the 520 rails is what he was referring to. Not a new thing.
Does a 520 become a Mark 7 when the Double Tilt Mod is installed?

Did my 510 become a 520 when I installed the Table Upgrade?

If I was to sell my 510, I would advertise it as a 510 and make the point that it has been upgraded with the new rails and fence.
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dusty wrote:Does a 520 become a Mark 7 when the Double Tilt Mod is installed? If it also has a PP.

Did my 510 become a 520 when I installed the Table Upgrade? Yes!

If I was to sell my 510, I would advertise it as a 510 and make the point that it has been upgraded with the new rails and fence.
These are indeed 'upgrades' that 'convert' to a later 'improved' model.

To be totally upfront and honest revealing those historical details is required,(and IMHO as well the only way to do so, however calling it a 520 would not be lying). I would be inclined to 'advertise' it as a 520, but divulge the history before selling it.

The bottom line is, does the upgrade have everything the 'improved' model has? Obviously the model designators(vent plate, stickers, whatever) will not be 'accurate' any more, but will reflect the true history.



Do not fear Dusty, yer 520 is there to stay until pried from yer cold rigor mortis infected hands!:eek:
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Billdit wrote:It was the "nest" I was referring to... You answered that question... Sorry I don't know the correct nomenclature ... I don't mean to confuse you JPG, another 50-60 years and I'll have this language thing down pat... I am going to pass on that 520 table conversion on Ebay... Will wait til I am more knowledgable ... Thanks for the help...


Truth be told, I made up the term 'nest' to hopefully help you(and me) understand what the 'rod slots' were. Billy is as guilty as I for making words up!

The boxy shaped rail extrusions have a curved surface along the interior top surface that the connecting tubes register against when the clamping screws are tightened from the bottom of the rail.

Way too much detail for either a salesman or their audience to comprehend, hence they use and make up buzz words.

The E-bay seller is being coy! The tables are of little use without an updated carriage.:eek: Then again ignorance may be in the mix, but I doubt that considering his asking price for the carriage.:( Keep looking, he was a bit too high anyway. If you get a sniff of another one, PM me and I will look at it. I do snipe on e-bay(last few seconds), but not for an item after another forum member has expressed an interest here.


BTW You did not confuse me,:cool: Billy did!;)
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Interesting discussion. I have two 520's, one came new from Shopsmith that way. The other I purchased as a 510 and upgraded it. When the Power Pro was introduced I upgraded my original machine to the Power Pro. Later I was treated to a demo of the Mark 7 and decided to upgrade both machines with the Mark 7 double tilt. Not for the double tilt itself but because the new design makes for increased stability and makes it much easier to keep alignment as desired.

Even though one is truly now the Mark 7, the other it seems to me still has the old 50th Anniversary headstock so is still a Mark V with the 7 upgrade. Now if you are confused welcome to the club so am I.:confused: Jim
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fjimp wrote: Now if you are confused welcome to the club so am I.:confused: Jim


For those with a Mark 7 Power Pro take a look at the vent plate and it may still say that it is a Mark V.:confused:
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So I guess when I put the Power Pro on my Mark 5 it will become a Mark 5.9 ?
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Billdit wrote:So I guess when I put the Power Pro on my Mark 5 it will become a Mark 5.9 ?

No logical progression there! SS is not making a power pro version of a Mark 5. So it will be a Mark 5 with a power pro upgrade, or headstock as appropriate.
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fjimp wrote:Interesting discussion. I have two 520's, one came new from Shopsmith that way. The other I purchased as a 510 and upgraded it. When the Power Pro was introduced I upgraded my original machine to the Power Pro. Later I was treated to a demo of the Mark 7 and decided to upgrade both machines with the Mark 7 double tilt. Not for the double tilt itself but because the new design makes for increased stability and makes it much easier to keep alignment as desired.

Even though one is truly now the Mark 7, the other it seems to me still has the old 50th Anniversary headstock so is still a Mark V with the 7 upgrade. Now if you are confused welcome to the club so am I.:confused: Jim
I still believe the same can be accomplished with a Mark 5/V.

The headrest needs to be adjusted/assembled properly(Way tubes not 'twisted').
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Billdit wrote: Hope I didn't get "took" too bad...
You won't find nay sayers on that around here


Edit: oops, it said took not hook some naysaying could happen but we all want at least one PP
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