Posts: Read or Unread

joedw00 · Post by **joedw00** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:37 pm

beeg wrote:I DON'T have this problem.

I don't have the problem either.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:02 pm

dusty wrote:I am confused. Do you not close down your browser when you plan to be gone from your computer for a while.

Closing your browser does nothing more than require you to log back in.

No.

I may have 10 sessions at a time with most of them dormant. Right now firefox is loaded 4 x.(Remember my consternation earlier?) Only built back up to 4 so far.

By keeping them loaded, I can immediately go back to when I put em to sleep so to speak(off screen) [-] as opposed to [X].

Logging on/off is a pita.

Gotta remember id's and passwords. Eliminates firefox load time also.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:10 pm

Dusty:

When you go to browse other sights and close the browser session that has been serving the forum, this effectively logs you out, so when you come back to the forum, you are starting over. Bold = unread. I have never seen them deviate.

Since I stay active almost constantly, the cookie jar I think overflows and I have to start over to get things synced again.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:55 am

beeg wrote:Do you open a NEW TAB to browse other web sites?

I am not certain that I understand the question but ....

If I am working in the SS site and I want to also work in lumberjacks say,
I right click on the Firefox button and open a new browser. Is that a new tab? Is that a new Window?

Observation: After reading all posts and then clicking on the Red X in the upper right corner of the Desk Top, when I log back into the SS site - no forum highlights exist. All posts indicate having been read.

idcook · Post by **idcook** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:18 am

I right click on the Firefox button and open a new browser. Is that a new tab?

I would think that was his intended meaning. i.e. — a new ‘browser window‘ = tab.

When I use Firefox I tend to experience something similar to what you describe when I use the backspace to return to the previous page after I’m done reading/posting in a thread.

To eliminate the bold indication of posts being marked as unread I click on the circular arrow to the far right in the address area, generally stated as ‘refreshing’ the page. That should update not only the page but the entire forum to show indication of posts as read and any new posts that have arrived.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:04 am

idcook wrote:I right click on the Firefox button and open a new browser. Is that a new tab?

I would think that was his intended meaning. i.e. — a new ‘browser window‘ = tab.

When I use Firefox I tend to experience something similar to what you describe when I use the backspace to return to the previous page after I’m done reading/posting in a thread.

To eliminate the bold indication of posts being marked as unread I click on the circular arrow to the far right in the address area, generally stated as ‘refreshing’ the page. That should update not only the page but the entire forum to show indication of posts as read and any new posts that have arrived.

I use the refresh and I think it works as intended but I wonder why it is necessary.

It seems as though my screen used to "auto refresh" but does not do that anymore. I say this because now I often return to my computer and find "no new (unread) posts" but when I do a manual refresh there are some.

I spend time on other sites that use the same web page software (vBulletin) as does Shopsmith and though there are similarities, there are also big differences. Some of those differences are undoubtedly because of version updates but I suspect that what I have is a "lack of prowess".

idcook · Post by **idcook** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:45 am

dusty wrote: I suspect that what I have is a "lack of prowess".

OR … heaven forbid, it could be a minor glitch with the site.

Perhaps someone should alert them to the issue so they can give the site a thorough going over.

idcook · Post by **idcook** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:45 am

dusty wrote: I suspect that what I have is a "lack of prowess".

OR … heaven forbid, it could be a minor glitch with the site.

Perhaps someone should alert site administrators to the issue so they can give the site a thorough going over.

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:39 am

Most web browsers like Firefox, Safari, IE, Opera, etc. allow for "tabbed" browsing. Instead of opening another instance of the browser, you can open a new "tab" within the same instance. I typically have around 10 tabs open in Firefox and 2 or 3 open in IE (I prefer Firefox, but some of the device management web interfaces I use for work tend to work better in IE). But, I only have one "instance" or "window" of each browser open. One of the things I love about Firefox is when I close it, it asks me if I want it to save the current tabs and re-open those the next time I start Firefox. I always do.

(I was thinking that clicking the red X and choosing "Exit" from the menu did the exact same thing, so I did a test by opening several Firefox windows with several tabs open in each, then performed both methods. Clicking the red X closes only that particular window. As long as other windows are open, I did NOT get asked if I wanted to save the open tabs for next time. Choosing "Exit" from the menu closes ALL Firefox windows, but this time it asked if I wanted to save all of those windows and the tabs within them for next time. So, my initial thinking was wrong.)

But this is a major digression from the original topic.

Dust, I'm trying to ascertain your exact procedure. I'm under the impression now that you see an unread topic (the title is bold), click to read it, then click the "back" button and the title is still bold indicating it has not been read. Is that the case? If so, the issue then is your browser cache. When you click "back" it's not reloading that previous page from the web server, but from a temporary copy it saved on your hard drive for just that purpose. That temporary copy had that bit of text bold, so it's still bold. I would actually expect this behavior from any web browser. It's only going to change the bolding of the text if it reloads the page from the web server (and if it has changed on the web server).

But, if you're reading a thread, then clicking "New Posts" again or getting to the list of threads by any means other than going "back" with your browser, and the messages are still showing bold/unread, then something else unexpected is happening. And since nobody else is having that problem, I would guess it's something on your end.

As far as how the "New Posts" link works, it works differently here than on any other forum I visit. Here, it seems that there are a couple times during the day when it "resets" and new posts that I haven't read don't show up when I click "New Posts." Sometimes if I click it a second or third time, it will decide to show me some new posts. It works most of the time, but I haven't quite figured out its entire behavior and why it sometimes says there are no new posts and then changes its mind. On other forums, their version of the "New Posts" link shows a list of every thread that has changed since the last time I logged off from the forum. If there are posts that I haven't read, then the post title is bold.

beeg · Post by **beeg** » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:46 am

idcook wrote:I right click on the Firefox button and open a new browser. Is that a new tab?

I would think that was his intended meaning. i.e. — a new ‘browser window‘ = tab.

Nope, knot at all. If ya go to the top of the browser, where the site name is. At the end of that box is a +, click on that and it will open a new blank tab within in your browser window.