Enough is Enough - or Not

db5 · Post by **db5** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:32 pm

Alfred E. Neuman, mascot for Mad magazine, said, “Most people don’t know what they really want – but they’re sure they haven’t got it.”

“Enough is a moving target.”When do we have enough? Enough money? Enough love? Enough time? Enough influence. Enough respect. Enough of whatever we think we need to be happier?

If you die this year will you have enough? What if it is not 15 years from now – or more? Enough? Will you die happier and will it be enough? If you ponder this and the answer is “no” then the answer you are looking for is not “more enough”. So, what is it? It’s not more and it’s not enough.

Eventually enough is enough because you just ran out of time and life. Enough just ended.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:44 pm

Ahhhh, you have exposed the fallacy of 'collecting' material things.

There really really are more important and satisfying things to pursue.

No I will not elaborate, there are too many!;)

rjent · Post by **rjent** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:09 am

I was fortunate to grow up in an Agricultural environment watching Life/Creation unfold in all of It's idiosyncrasies. My dad (now long gone) instilled a love of live and a love of living in the now with the understanding that "we" have no control over Life or the progression of events.

It was a good lesson and I have always been happy, even during seemingly bad times because of that upbringing. Wouldn't change a thing ....

But hey, I am old, what do I know ....

Gene Howe · Post by **Gene Howe** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:32 am

I want more of what makes me happy and, I've had enough of what doesn't.
A sure fire method of accurate 45s would be nice.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:26 am

Gene Howe wrote:I want more of what makes me happy and, I've had enough of what doesn't.
A sure fire method of accurate 45s would be nice.

The ONLY way to achieve that is to relax your expectations of 45s.

In the meantime, a MiterPro. However, the MiterPro does not guarantee the accuracy of the 45s. It does help, however, help you to get two 45s that when put together gives you an accurate 90. BUT and I repeat BUT, only if you use the MiterPro in accordance with the instructions.

Gene Howe · Post by **Gene Howe** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:44 am

Instructions???? Who reads instructions?

dusty wrote:The ONLY way to achieve that is to relax your expectations of 45s.

In the meantime, a MiterPro. However, the MiterPro does not guarantee the accuracy of the 45s. It does help, however, help you to get two 45s that when put together gives you an accurate 90. BUT and I repeat BUT, only if you use the MiterPro in accordance with the instructions.

steve4447 · Post by **steve4447** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:20 am

[quote="JPG40504"]Ahhhh, you have exposed the fallacy of 'collecting' material things.

There really really are more important and satisfying things to pursue.

No I will not elaborate, there are too many!]

Yes ...People have to learn to be thankful....Advertising constantly tells us that no matter what we have...even if we just acquired it after a long and painful wait..It is nothing but absolute CRAP...and we must dump it for something better...

My Aunt Betty June ...Now at the end of her life and the last surviving member of her generation....Has said it well....most people have never learned to be happy....

Betty's father came to this country as an 8 year old boy and went to work in the mill at that young age and worked until he was 48 and died ...Leaving a widow and small children...so yes they were very poor...But Betty and the family were happy most of their lives and were always able to be thankful for what they had in those bad times and the many, many good times...

Luckily I have been blessed with the ability to savor life's sweetness today...

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:31 am

I think eight is enough. Eight is enough to fill our lives with love.

richardf · Post by **richardf** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:53 pm

Bumped into this this am after reading this thread, was born in Florida, still have "sand in my shoes..."

http://www.tampabay.com/features/humaninterest/the-last-martin-of-gilchrist-county/2173260

Sorry about the 15 sec add at start of video, its worth wading thru, ck 3:55 to 4:05 in the video, nice article too.

Pretty sure my next bzillion posts will be a questions (thanks in advance).

WmZiggy · Post by **WmZiggy** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:49 pm

[quote="JPG40504"]Ahhhh, you have exposed the fallacy of 'collecting' material things.

There really really are more important and satisfying things to pursue.

No I will not elaborate, there are too many!]

You know there are two fundamental philosophical/religious views on this:

The Eastern view is that the material world is an illusion and only the spiritual exists. This fundamental view under-girded the Kamikaze in WWII, as well as the suicide bomber today.

The Western view, beginning with the Enlightenment in the 18th century, gives a wholesale rejection of the non-material/spiritual outlook on life and completely embraces materialism. It is well with us today in the USA. Everything, and I mean everything that is to be taken seriously, must be measurable. Science is God. Just look at the joy on the faces of people on Antiques Road Show when they get a high number on what their collectable is worth. Did it make them happy before they had that number? Was the painting a thing of joy before they knew it was worth six figures?

Only in the Judeo/Christian worldview do you have both the spiritual and the material embraced and pronounced "good". There is goodness and value in the material, and there is reality and goodness in the spiritual or non-material. "One cannot live by bread alone". There is value in both. One with out the other creates dis-ease.

I am not into "hair-shirt" existence exactly because of my Christian worldview. I love the material world and I collect things that make me happy. I have relationships with people (as opposed to being a hermit) because relationships make me happy (most of the time). I choose to see people as more than the sum of their biochemistry or the size of their wallet. I know that happiness is a spiritual gift that undergirds the material world and that both are needed for a fulfilling life. When I die I hope someone loves the tools I have collect.