Make sure the comments are not to be confused with a Mark VII. A Mark 2 is a completely different genre.idcook wrote:I find that interesting as it has appeared to me that plastic is usually the first item mentioned (often the only item) regarding quality of the M2.
Mark II $245
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
When I was first discovering Shopsmith through the 10ER that was given to me, that statement on the Shopsmith Web site confused me. It can be found on the history page for several past machines. I thought they must have been made by another company and licensed the Shopsmith name or something. But they are authentic Shopsmith machines, made by the official Shopsmith company of their time. It's just that the company currently known as "Shopsmith, Inc" is technically a different company although they hold the Shopsmith legacy.rcplaneguy wrote:1958 to 1960 Mark II (5-in-1)
This unit was made exclusively for Montgomery Wards. It was not made of the same quality as the MARK V. These units were NOT manufactured by Shopsmith, Inc. Shopsmith, Inc. has NO repair parts for these tools.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
I wouldn't mind having a Mark II just because it's sort of an odd hybrid of a 10ER and a Mark 5. Just looking at the machines you would think the development was 10ER, Mark II, then Mark 5.
Heath
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Central Louisiana
-10ER - SN 13927, Born 1949, Acquired October 2008, Restored November, 2008
-10ER - SN 35630, Born 1950, Acquired April 2009, Restored May 2009, A34 Jigsaw
-Mark V - SN 212052, Born 1986, Acquired Sept 2009, Restored March 2010, Bandsaw
-10ER - SN 39722, Born 1950, Acquired March 2011, awaiting restoration
Looks like the belt guard on the machine linked above is held together with duct tape, so this shortcoming appears to apply to this machine as well…although if everything in my life that was fixed with duct tape was considered a shortcoming, I'd be in troubleJPG40504 wrote:Let's call them 'shortcomings'.
The belt guard broke usually.
'78 Mark V 500 #27995 (my Dad bought new)
'82 Mark V 500 #96309
Two '47 10E's (serial#4314+6149) - one a dedicated drill press and the other a lathe
Two 10E/ER in parts slowly being restored…#26822 and #????? (SS plate missing)
SPT's: Bandsaw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer, Jigsaw, Biscuit Joiner
'82 Mark V 500 #96309
Two '47 10E's (serial#4314+6149) - one a dedicated drill press and the other a lathe
Two 10E/ER in parts slowly being restored…#26822 and #????? (SS plate missing)
SPT's: Bandsaw, Belt Sander, Strip Sander, Jointer, Jigsaw, Biscuit Joiner
Heath, in my (never to be) humble opinion, the Mk II was a downgrade from the ER. But then, we all agree the ER was WELL over-engineered. The Mk II was under engineered, to the point of being weak in any phase of the Shopsmith's performance.heathicus wrote:I wouldn't mind having a Mark II just because it's sort of an odd hybrid of a 10ER and a Mark 5. Just looking at the machines you would think the development was 10ER, Mark II, then Mark 5.
If an ER falls off of a truck, you're liable to the most damage to the concrete or (even worse) asphalt. With a Mk II, is it worth picking back up?
Sorry to be such a stick-in-the-mud, but I'm just not impressed.
Save your money for Mk-something else, or the ER.
steve