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600 Page Deposition Reinacted by NY Times

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This is absurd, hilarious, agravating and illustrates the lengths people go to in order to obfuscate when questioned. Does this remind anyone of the House questioning various IRS directors or State Department higher-management or the Justice Department and getting nowhere?

This is an example of where art and science come together in a complete package and what a package it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZbqAMEwtOE#t=395

Published on Apr 28, 2014
In this dramatization of transcripts from a legal deposition, a lawyer becomes embroiled in an absurd argument about the definition of a photocopier.

Produced by: Brett Weiner

Read the story here: http://nyti.ms/1nzbpEh
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Having been deposed, I feel for that guy. It looks like his attorney prepped him that way, possibly because the existence of technological distinctions is central to his side's case. Opposing counsel doesn't feel the distinctions are relevant. I have no idea who's right. It does make for good entertainment.

But, to your question, I find no similarity to Darrell Issa's witch-hunts.
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That IS hilarious.

Um, depending on what the definition of "is" is, that is. :D

Good Lord in Heaven help me, national politics has gotten so bad that I sometimes find myself actually missing "Slick Willie". :eek:
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Dennis, out of the last 4 presidents, I'd rather spend an hour or 3, sitting at a bar, next to Willie.

He lied about a "job." (Don't make me define that.) His wife, and her boss lied about getting an ambassador (and 3 others) killed.

Dave, Susan Rice was instructed to lie about Benghazi, and Lois Lerner plead the 5th, to keep from incriminating herself. (Personally, I don't think a public employee should be able to take the "fifth" to protect themselves, after committing a fraud in their public duties.)

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skou wrote:Dennis, out of the last 4 presidents, I'd rather spend an hour or 3, sitting at a bar, next to Willie.

He lied about a "job." (Don't make me define that.)
steve
I 'think' it was that his legal team got Starr etal. to agree to redefine the 'job' as NOT sex. That way his statement "I did not have sex with that woman" (as his pointing finger crooked back and pointed at himself) was not perjury.

Quick side story regarding testimony -------
While driving a guest key note speaker (a federal judge) the five minutes from the airport to his hotel, we had a fun discussion on the non-relevancy of laws in the truth and the complete lack of truth in testimony. In that few minutes I 'put him on the stand' where in his own words answering specific yes or no questions, he admitted that the sky was Orange. The conversation started with a discussion about the 'OATH' - the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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The 'TRUTH' is lost in a maze of rules and procedures governed by the institution that created the maze so that only those who were admitted to play the game were allowed to adjust the maze to fit a particular situation.

Please do not misconstrue nor misunderstand, I believe there are honorable lawyers, however many we see with less than honorable intent, are obsessed with winning. Which in reality is why we hire one. Few of us work with the art of conversation and discourse. We rely on paid mouth pieces to speak where we fear we cannot. Add to that vicious circle, the lack of avenues for us to proceed without someone speaking for us. Having watched my Father proceed through the ranks of Toastmasters, I came to realize that eloquence was learned. As a mediator I learned listening has become nearly non-existent (personal theory about the reliance on TV as a major contributing factor). It appears the desire to pigeon hole / categorize has infiltrated society for as long as there have been more than one person. Finally, trust (if you believe anything spouted in the media) has taken a huge hit in the past 20 years.

Given the proceeding, is there any wonder why we hire someone to define a 'definition' to define a word that defines a sentence, ad naseum?

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skou wrote:Dennis, out of the last 4 presidents, I'd rather spend an hour or 3, sitting at a bar, next to Willie.

steve
I was once in the same room with good ole Willie, having been invited to participate in an "economic summit". Those were the good old days. Most of the cabinet was at dinner, yet security was laughable.

It still amuses me that the old lead-lined film-protector bags were plenty big enough to hold a decent-sized handgun, yet my film bag was never, ever, opened and inspected. I did, however, once get asked what my monopod was. Simply replying "It's a monopod." was quite sufficient to get through security.

But I digress. It turned out that us "economic summiteers" were actually invited merely to serve as window dressing in suits, while Bill pontificated on whatever he wanted on national TV. Typical .. but now I know better.

Now go back one more Pres., and I truly respect the guy. I'd love to jump out of an airplane with George H.W. Too bad that the fruit fell a bit far from the tree.
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BuckeyeDennis wrote:I was once in the same room with good ole Willie, having been invited to participate in an "economic summit". Those were the good old days. Most of the cabinet was at dinner, yet security was laughable.

It still amuses me that the old lead-lined film-protector bags were plenty big enough to hold a decent-sized handgun, yet my film bag was never, ever, opened and inspected. I did, however, once get asked what my monopod was. Simply replying "It's a monopod." was quite sufficient to get through security.

But I digress. It turned out that us "economic summiteers" were actually invited merely to serve as window dressing in suits, while Bill pontificated on whatever he wanted on national TV. Typical .. but now I know better.

Now go back one more Pres., and I truly respect the guy. I'd love to jump out of an airplane with George H.W. Too bad that the fruit fell a bit far from the tree.
I think the 'fruit' rolled out of the pasture and over a cliff into the ocean.









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