Goldie and I need Help!
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- "Wild Bad Bob"
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Should have said "Spending", woman shop!!!
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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rbursek wrote:Should have said "Spending", woman shop!!!
So did you spend? Racine aka Burlington?
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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$125.00 worth!!! It is in supper nice shape a far as the finish goes, just some light rust in some areas on the tubes. Its all Fitz fault for talking about the one he saw in SF. Not a bad thing though!!!
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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JPG how did you know it was in Burlington???? Not Racine?
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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Look again at the CL posting.rbursek wrote:JPG how did you know it was in Burlington???? Not Racine?
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Congrats! Now I have to get one so I can blame you in return.
Take photos now so you can later show how it cleaned up.
I know this is hardly a new suggestion but I strongly suggest using electrolysis on tubes if they are rusty. Or other parts. I did 8 tubes and lots of smaller parts, plus the sheet metal legs from one machine and it saved me uncountable hours of labor. Also cheaper than buying naval jelly for all that. Not toxic. Self limiting so it didn't matter when I forgot I'd left the springs from casters in for a day. Easy easy easy. Just don't use stainless for sacrificial piece... That does make it very very toxic.
Anyhow, let's see photos!
Take photos now so you can later show how it cleaned up.
I know this is hardly a new suggestion but I strongly suggest using electrolysis on tubes if they are rusty. Or other parts. I did 8 tubes and lots of smaller parts, plus the sheet metal legs from one machine and it saved me uncountable hours of labor. Also cheaper than buying naval jelly for all that. Not toxic. Self limiting so it didn't matter when I forgot I'd left the springs from casters in for a day. Easy easy easy. Just don't use stainless for sacrificial piece... That does make it very very toxic.
Anyhow, let's see photos!
Greenie (no serial #), 82 Mark V 500 serial #128648, ci bandsaw, old jigsaw, planer. All one buy in March 2014. Magna Jointer added Nov. '14. Speed reducer, conical disk and two bearing quill upgrade.
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Fitz, I know about electolosis, but never did it, so I will will all of your help here!!! Then I have it in my repitore', exterior are a bit but who knows about the insides? They are so thick, at least an 1/8th" they would never rust through in my life time left anyway. The "battle ship gray" paint is in good shape all over, some polishing compound and a shiny clear coat is all that would need.
Then Fritz up the aluminum.
OBTW I have a bro that lives out side of Stockton, CA, in Linden,I usually visit for a month or so, and do his work for him around the ranch once a year, cant get good help according to him, how close are you?
Then Fritz up the aluminum.
OBTW I have a bro that lives out side of Stockton, CA, in Linden,I usually visit for a month or so, and do his work for him around the ranch once a year, cant get good help according to him, how close are you?
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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Look again!!!!!!!rbursek wrote:Fitz, I know about electolosis, but never did it, so I will will all of your help here!!! Then I have it in my repitore', exterior are a bit but who knows about the insides? They are so thick, at least an 1/8th" they would never rust through in my life time left anyway. The "battle ship gray" paint is in good shape all over, some polishing compound and a shiny clear coat is all that would need.
Then Fritz up the aluminum.
OBTW I have a bro that lives out side of Stockton, CA, in Linden,I usually visit for a month or so, and do his work for him around the ranch once a year, cant get good help according to him, how close are you?
Fer tubes I like evaporust and a pvc pipe.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Okay guys an update, I was at my other shop today, I am in the process of moving that to my residence, so I have some there some here now, plus in the middle of a ww project that is been basically on hold with all this spending and working on the Phoenix hatchery.
I took over the idler spindle that was seized up that I had to pick the shredded belt fibers out of and put the heat wrench on it, got it freed, shaft has galled rubber on it, thats why it would not move, I will need to remove it with your help with techniques here.
I brought the heat wrench home, it has a rose bud tip, I heated up the aluminum casting inside the HS where most of the steel bushing is and aluminum casting to hold it, that has been soaking, Wha La, a few hits on trunion shaft and the shaft is out, quill is out, since I was hitting from the speed dial side, the shaft came out the other side, the bushing has to come out the other way. I am soaking it, and in a previous post here someone commented on if steel corrodes to aluminum it is more tenacious to undo then steel to steel. Tomorrow spending the day here culminating things.
Today I drilled a larger hole in the Greenies motor pan for the new anti tension device for the new cord since my drills and DP are still there, what a piece of work just to change the power supply cord!!! So tomoorow I will put the Greenie back to operation with the new installed bearings.
I piked up the sharpened jointer blades for the Greenie jointer yesterday and will install them and then get back to that thread/problem about the table alignment if that in fact is a problem.
Will also reheat the Goldie bushing/sleeve housing and put my 16" socket/ratchet extension inverted into a socket of the right diam so the flat base of the socket fits through the "ears" and contacts the sleeve/bushing and try and knock it out from the quill spring side, exiting on the speed control side.
Someone replaced the bearings on the Goldie and did a butcher job replacing them, they are not sealed ones, the metal sided ones, is that high temp? what ever, those metal places are all deformed, so as JPG suggested, just change them all, but at a later date, since this is a winter machine, no hurry till fall.
WHAT surprised me and I was worried about with the heat wrench, was blistering the finish on the outside of the HS, did not affect it!!!!! I love the quality of these things!!!!!
OBTW how is the fishing your way JPG in the fall/autumn???
I took over the idler spindle that was seized up that I had to pick the shredded belt fibers out of and put the heat wrench on it, got it freed, shaft has galled rubber on it, thats why it would not move, I will need to remove it with your help with techniques here.
I brought the heat wrench home, it has a rose bud tip, I heated up the aluminum casting inside the HS where most of the steel bushing is and aluminum casting to hold it, that has been soaking, Wha La, a few hits on trunion shaft and the shaft is out, quill is out, since I was hitting from the speed dial side, the shaft came out the other side, the bushing has to come out the other way. I am soaking it, and in a previous post here someone commented on if steel corrodes to aluminum it is more tenacious to undo then steel to steel. Tomorrow spending the day here culminating things.
Today I drilled a larger hole in the Greenies motor pan for the new anti tension device for the new cord since my drills and DP are still there, what a piece of work just to change the power supply cord!!! So tomoorow I will put the Greenie back to operation with the new installed bearings.
I piked up the sharpened jointer blades for the Greenie jointer yesterday and will install them and then get back to that thread/problem about the table alignment if that in fact is a problem.
Will also reheat the Goldie bushing/sleeve housing and put my 16" socket/ratchet extension inverted into a socket of the right diam so the flat base of the socket fits through the "ears" and contacts the sleeve/bushing and try and knock it out from the quill spring side, exiting on the speed control side.
Someone replaced the bearings on the Goldie and did a butcher job replacing them, they are not sealed ones, the metal sided ones, is that high temp? what ever, those metal places are all deformed, so as JPG suggested, just change them all, but at a later date, since this is a winter machine, no hurry till fall.
WHAT surprised me and I was worried about with the heat wrench, was blistering the finish on the outside of the HS, did not affect it!!!!! I love the quality of these things!!!!!
OBTW how is the fishing your way JPG in the fall/autumn???
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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Okay JPG I will mic them up tonight!!!!
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Originally Posted by rbursek
Fitz, I know about electolosis, but never did it, so I will will all of your help here!!! Then I have it in my repitore', exterior are a bit but who knows about the insides? They are so thick, at least an 1/8th" they would never rust through in my life time left anyway. The "battle ship gray" paint is in good shape all over, some polishing compound and a shiny clear coat is all that would need.
Then Fritz up the aluminum.
OBTW I have a bro that lives out side of Stockton, CA, in Linden,I usually visit for a month or so, and do his work for him around the ranch once a year, cant get good help according to him, how close are you?
Look again!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by rbursek
Fitz, I know about electolosis, but never did it, so I will will all of your help here!!! Then I have it in my repitore', exterior are a bit but who knows about the insides? They are so thick, at least an 1/8th" they would never rust through in my life time left anyway. The "battle ship gray" paint is in good shape all over, some polishing compound and a shiny clear coat is all that would need.
Then Fritz up the aluminum.
OBTW I have a bro that lives out side of Stockton, CA, in Linden,I usually visit for a month or so, and do his work for him around the ranch once a year, cant get good help according to him, how close are you?
Look again!!!!!!!
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.