Exactly! We can take 90-95 degree air at 10 or 15 percent H and cool it to 65 to 75 degrees at 5000 CFM outlet volume. If your house is (to make it simple) 1000 sq ft, you are exchanging all of the air just about every min. The trick is to move a lot of air, and make sure the air has some method of exiting the house. It is great for allergies as well as you have this effective water bath 5000 CFM air filtration/humidification/cooling device loving called a swamp box. Back in the colonial days, the "Ranch" style house was surrounded with a Veranda or covered porch and they hung wet burlap bags (the ones they didn't use for underwear anyway:D ) and they let the breeze cool the adobe house.rbursek wrote:I cut the ice in the winter and store it in the ice house packed in saw dust. Messier then a swamp cooler though.
Rjent, why are the SC better then AC out there? I am guessing because it is soooo dry that you get a really great evaperation ratio?
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1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Spent a couple weeks at 29 Palms MCB and the first Monday the idiots that 'were in charge' had us close all the windows prior to leaving the barracks.rjent wrote:Exactly! We can take 90-95 degree air at 10 or 15 percent H and cool it to 65 to 75 degrees at 5000 CFM outlet volume. If your house is (to make it simple) 1000 sq ft, you are exchanging the air 5 times a min. The trick is to move a lot of air, and make sure the air has some method of exiting the house. It is great for allergies as well as you have this effective water bath 5000 CFM air filtration/humidification/cooling device loving called a swamp box. Back in the colonial days, the "Ranch" style house was surrounded with a Veranda or covered porch and they hung wet burlap bags (the ones they didn't use for underwear anyway:D ) and they let the breeze cool the adobe house.
When we returned late that aft, it rained inside when the door was opened.
Speaking of skivvies, 5 min max to bone dry!
Fortunately it dried up quickly with everything opened wide!
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We have gone through 29 Palms a couple of time during the last two years or so. Once in JulyJPG40504 wrote:Spent a couple weeks at 29 Palms MCB and the first Monday the idiots that 'were in charge' had us close all the windows prior to leaving the barracks.
When we returned late that aft, it rained inside when the door was opened.
Speaking of skivvies, 5 min max to bone dry!
Fortunately it dried up quickly with everything opened wide!
One thing I am curious about, what where all of those small 50's style abandonded (most of them) homes for? GI's after WWII? We wondered about them on both trips .....
As far as drying, yeah, with 20 percent humidity and below, water doesn't last long. We live at 5000 feet altitude, so we also have cooler air than say Dallas (with their humidity) or 29 Palms (with their .... Californians ....
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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rjent wrote:We have gone through 29 Palms a couple of time during the last two years or so. Once in JulyOMG! And once in the spring, a little better, but still awfully hot.
One thing I am curious about, what where all of those small 50's style abandonded (most of them) homes for? GI's after WWII? We wondered about them on both trips .....![]()
As far as drying, yeah, with 20 percent humidity and below, water doesn't last long. We live at 5000 feet altitude, so we also have cooler air than say Dallas (with their humidity) or 29 Palms (with their .... Californians ....) but we are cooler to start because of our altitude.
Yep! 120+ upon arrival, got up as high as 129. We will not speak of night time temps. Damn what a contrast!!!
I did not 'get into town'! Went to Las Vegas fer the week end.
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Love it, an other thread went a stray!!! But learned so much more!!!
JPg, thanks for your honesty on the off spring, gives me more knowledge about you via a non discript, lack of personal connotation, electronic medium!!! I think I got that all correct???!!!
AH, life of being a 14 boy, and the allure of a fresh, soft, tender young lass, sure beats the odors of fresh cut wood or/and cutting oil in a machine shop!!!!
In time, when the novelty wares off, he will come around to grandpa for wisdom and skills!!!
JPg, thanks for your honesty on the off spring, gives me more knowledge about you via a non discript, lack of personal connotation, electronic medium!!! I think I got that all correct???!!!
AH, life of being a 14 boy, and the allure of a fresh, soft, tender young lass, sure beats the odors of fresh cut wood or/and cutting oil in a machine shop!!!!
In time, when the novelty wares off, he will come around to grandpa for wisdom and skills!!!
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
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JPG, in another thread that I talked about wearing gloves, you gave me a negitive!!
Using gloves when handling fir is a really good thing to do!
So, ice and fan are your idea of an artic cooler. Slightly more efficient that a swamp cooler!
Ya, but shoot, when all that ice melts on the floor, it just raises the humidity right back up, not to mention the mold problem!!!!
Using gloves when handling fir is a really good thing to do!
So, ice and fan are your idea of an artic cooler. Slightly more efficient that a swamp cooler!
Ya, but shoot, when all that ice melts on the floor, it just raises the humidity right back up, not to mention the mold problem!!!!
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
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He's 24!:eek:rbursek wrote:Love it, an other thread went a stray!!! But learned so much more!!!
JPg, thanks for your honesty on the off spring, gives me more knowledge about you via a non discript, lack of personal connotation, electronic medium!!! I think I got that all correct???!!!
AH, life of being a 14 boy, and the allure of a fresh, soft, tender young lass, sure beats the odors of fresh cut wood or/and cutting oil in a machine shop!!!!
In time, when the novelty wares off, he will come around to grandpa for wisdom and skills!!!
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24!!! Time to wise him up!!! Hind site, too late!!!LOL
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How does one wise them up when they already know it all?:rolleyes:rbursek wrote:24!!! Time to wise him up!!! Hind site, too late!!!LOL
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