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farley wrote:I don't face book or twitter, but I am older. SS wants/needs to get into the youth more as us old folks are not the future.

I think it's a good thing for SS.

I won't join, but look at the numbers of FB people and how every veterinary, grocery store or doctor wants you to "like them" on FB. It's the future.
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I'm the last holdout in my immediate family to NOT Facebook, twit, or # . I barely have time to hit the woodworking sites I like, much less constantly update every step of my day or check on someone else who has nothing better to do than update their every instant. However, it is fun to watch all the folks who walk into something or other while updating on their phones. I've seen kids walk off curbs, adults walk into closed glass doors, skateboarders run into street sign poles. And WAY too many people of all ages on their phones while driving. :eek:
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The biggest threat on Facebook is becoming hopelessly addicted to Candy Crush .
I know people who spend all their time playing it.
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farley wrote:I don't face book or twitter, but I am older. SS wants/needs to get into the youth more as us old folks are not the future.

I think it's a good thing for SS.

I won't join, but look at the numbers of FB people and how every veterinary, grocery store or doctor wants you to "like them" on FB. It's the future.
Before you "like" someone on Facebook, you want to understand what that causes. Liking someone is akin to passing on a chain letter or participating in a pyramid scheme.

The list just grows and grows. I don't "Like" anyone anymore.:rolleyes:

Grocery stores and the like are something different. That has to do with distribution of web pages. The more people that like you, the more people see your web page.

My daughter (one of them) operates an embroidery business. She was struggling and then she developed a web page. Originally it was aimed at a narrow audience, horse show folks. The web page has allowed her to expand the scope considerably.
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farley wrote:I don't face book or twitter, but I am older. SS wants/needs to get into the youth more as us old folks are not the future.

I think it's a good thing for SS.

I won't join, but look at the numbers of FB people and how every veterinary, grocery store or doctor wants you to "like them" on FB. It's the future.

I think Shopsmith may be a little late in getting the youth. My understanding is the kids are dumping Facebook since their parents and grandparents are on it. Shopsmith should have been on there years ago. Before us old cronies even knew it existed.
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Ed in Tampa wrote:I think Shopsmith may be a little late in getting the youth. My understanding is the kids are dumping Facebook since their parents and grandparents are on it. Shopsmith should have been on there years ago. Before us old cronies even knew it existed.

If you think the younger set is dumping FB, then I would like for you to explain how/why the number of FBers is growing so fast. It is certainly not the old folks. There isn't enough of left.

Facebook has not yet lost its appeal. Twitter is beginning to but they'll turn that around as soon as they get rid of the 140 character limit. They took a giant step in that direction when they made it possible for twitterers to string one tweet right after another.
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Where you can help:
[INDENT]1) Like Us on Facebook and Google+]


From what I have seen, there is a button to click on to like whatever. So HOW does one do this for SS?
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dusty wrote:If you think the younger set is dumping FB, then I would like for you to explain how/why the number of FBers is growing so fast. It is certainly not the old folks. There isn't enough of left.

Facebook has not yet lost its appeal. Twitter is beginning to but they'll turn that around as soon as they get rid of the 140 character limit. They took a giant step in that direction when they made it possible for twitterers to string one tweet right after another.
How come you know so much about tweeting?:D
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I for one applaud Shopsmith's efforts to drag themselves into the current century and tap into social media.


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BuckeyeDennis wrote: it just creeps me out that a big commercial database is working hard to record as many details of my life and interests as possible. By linking to his Facebook account, my brother's iPad correctly identified almost all of the relatives in a family-reunion photo. Amazingly, it even ID'd a picture of my 20-something niece hanging on the wall, taken when she was about 6 years old.
Regarding the identification of an individual in a photo. Please understand that it was not Facebook (the corporate entity) that identified individuals in a photo, it was a Facebook user that "tagged" a section of the photo as an individual. This is why it is uncannily accurate. Someone that knew what your niece looked like at 6 yrs old tagged that section of the photo not Facebook or a computer system.

My kids are kind of funny and my SS (among other things) has been tagged as me in a photo or two.

The tags are collected as part of the photo and linked to it. If the individual being tagged is on Facebook, and have loose security settings, then anyone that knows them or is friends of a friend will get the notification that so and so was tagged in a photo. I keep my settings as tight as I can on Facebook and only allow direct friends to see things regarding me. Never friends of friends. or everyone.

The only reason I got a FB account was to monitor my teenage son. He is now 19 and in college and I no longer have the need or desire to monitor his activity. The only reason I keep it now is my daughter's postings of my Grandson. Other than that, I have no real use for it.

So we are clear. Most Major Companies, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, twitter, Walmart, Large grocery store chains with membership/discount cards(Safeway), etc all have a means for capturing, storing, analyzing, and SELLING metadata regarding usage. Most go way farther than just the "metadata" in terms of capture. Yes, Safeway, Costco, and Walmart collectively know almost the entire contents of my house (If someone with the right skills and access wanted to search hard enough, they could figure it out) . This is actually quite different from George Orwell's scenario in that the 1984 scenario involved the Gov't and thought police. The current intrusions do not attempt to control or make illegal my thoughts/preferences, they are just observing what I do and marketing to that preference/behavior. If it means lower prices and better deals for me, I'm OK with that. Google brings in billions of dollars from search and uses that to improve the technology. The use of Google's product offerings is mostly $0 and I'm good with that. I get much better search results when I am logged in because they know what I have clicked on in the past and where I typically spend my time when browsing this gets me the results that mean the most to me. Bing, Yahoo, and Ask all do it too, you are tracked and monitored. (I do Understand that I am willfully surrendering my privacy by logging in to a $0 search engine and using it).

I have taught all my children that there is absolutely 0 expectation of privacy on any form of electronic communication especially the Internet. Never post anything or click anything you don't want the whole world to know about. Including e-mails, texts and so called "private messages". If the communication uses the TCP/IP communication protocol it is suspect and subject to monitoring unless specific encryption algorithms have been applied to secure the communication.

The bottom line is we live in Modern America and the corporate world has a pretty good understanding of who you are and any proclivities or preferences you may have. Short of an "End of world" scenario, this genie is not going back in this particular bottle. Learn to live with it or move to Alaska or some other remote area and go "Off the grid" entirely.
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