Mark VII / 510 Upgrade
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Mark VII / 510 Upgrade
Just a thought, has anyone ever upgraded an old Mark VII with a 510 table set-up? I have a Mark VII recently restored with a aluminum cam and steel gear rack that going to be a keeper. I was going to just use it as a unit to run my SPT's but I'm considering a 510 table set-up if I see a decent priced one on Ebay. I already have a 510 which is my main go-to machine.
Robb
1990 Shopsmith Mark 510, 1980 Mark 500, (3) Mark VII's 1963 & two 1965's, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Jig Saw, Lathe Duplicator, Biscuit Joiner, Belt Sander, Router Table, DC 3000, SS Router Table
1990 Shopsmith Mark 510, 1980 Mark 500, (3) Mark VII's 1963 & two 1965's, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Jig Saw, Lathe Duplicator, Biscuit Joiner, Belt Sander, Router Table, DC 3000, SS Router Table
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Double tilt may be a problem.(the MVII table tilts 90 both ways) The carriage would have to be replaced which would preclude using the old table(post spacing).r_mack1969 wrote:Just a thought, has anyone ever upgraded an old Mark VII with a 510 table set-up? I have a Mark VII recently restored with a aluminum cam and steel gear rack that going to be a keeper. I was going to just use it as a unit to run my SPT's but I'm considering a 510 table set-up if I see a decent priced one on Ebay. I already have a 510 which is my main go-to machine.
I think it is more trouble than it is worth and you would lose some unique features of the M VII.
But I can understand you wanting compatability/common hardware.
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That too!:rolleyes: I also overlooked it!r_mack1969 wrote:Ahhh...I just remembered, a 510 carriage won't work with the gear rack without modification.
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Do tell more about the steel rack. Where, when did you get them?
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I saw a Mark VII on CL for $50 about a half hour from home. A week before I had picked up one for $50 and was restoring it, so I figured I'd use the new one for parts. When I went to buy it, I checked the speed control and it was aluminum, so I was pretty happy but the plastic gear rack was broken. As I was leaving the guy ran out and stopped me, giving me a steel gear rack that the previous owner had made special for him. The back was concaved so it would fit on the way tube. Needless to say, after that I really happy. Both machines were in such good shape I went through both of them, bearing, belts, paint etc. Since then I found another one for $50 that I couldn't pass up. That one's waiting to be done over. The one with the aluminum cam and steel gear rack though is my keeper.
Robb
1990 Shopsmith Mark 510, 1980 Mark 500, (3) Mark VII's 1963 & two 1965's, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Jig Saw, Lathe Duplicator, Biscuit Joiner, Belt Sander, Router Table, DC 3000, SS Router Table
1990 Shopsmith Mark 510, 1980 Mark 500, (3) Mark VII's 1963 & two 1965's, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Jig Saw, Lathe Duplicator, Biscuit Joiner, Belt Sander, Router Table, DC 3000, SS Router Table
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I saw a Mark VII on CL for $50 about a half hour from home. A week before I had picked up one for $50 and was restoring it, so I figured I'd use the new one for parts. When I went to buy it, I checked the speed control and it was aluminum, so I was pretty happy but the plastic gear rack was broken. As I was leaving the guy ran out and stopped me, giving me a steel gear rack that the previous owner had made special for him. The back was concaved so it would fit on the way tube. Needless to say, after that I really happy. Both machines were in such good shape I went through both of them, bearing, belts, paint etc. Since then I found another one for $50 that I couldn't pass up. That one's waiting to be done over. The one with the aluminum cam and steel gear rack though is my keeper.
Robb
1990 Shopsmith Mark 510, 1980 Mark 500, (3) Mark VII's 1963 & two 1965's, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Jig Saw, Lathe Duplicator, Biscuit Joiner, Belt Sander, Router Table, DC 3000, SS Router Table
1990 Shopsmith Mark 510, 1980 Mark 500, (3) Mark VII's 1963 & two 1965's, Planer, Bandsaw, Jointer, Jig Saw, Lathe Duplicator, Biscuit Joiner, Belt Sander, Router Table, DC 3000, SS Router Table
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