ER 10s Speed Range??
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JPG, Bob, there is another variable in this equation.
The width of the belts.
The original instructions say to NOT loosen the setscrews on the center sheave assembly. That is wrong, because now, belts are NOT 1/2 inch wide at the top.
Bob, with the center sheave, (the center pulley assembly) off the machine, and both belts in hand, loosen one side of the center pulley assembly outer sheave.
You want to set it up so one belt is almost bottomed out, and the other belt is sitting level with the top of the sheave. Now, tighten down the setscrews.
Install the center sheave assembly onto the speedchanger, with the new belts, and check out the adjustment. You should be able to adjust from one pulley sitting flush with the top, and the other pulley ALMOST touching bottom.
You also need to raise or lower the motor, to achieve the correct tension on the belts. It's looser than you think, especially with Skip's belts. If it is slipping with a heavy load, drop the motor, just a tiny bit.
steve
The width of the belts.
The original instructions say to NOT loosen the setscrews on the center sheave assembly. That is wrong, because now, belts are NOT 1/2 inch wide at the top.
Bob, with the center sheave, (the center pulley assembly) off the machine, and both belts in hand, loosen one side of the center pulley assembly outer sheave.
You want to set it up so one belt is almost bottomed out, and the other belt is sitting level with the top of the sheave. Now, tighten down the setscrews.
Install the center sheave assembly onto the speedchanger, with the new belts, and check out the adjustment. You should be able to adjust from one pulley sitting flush with the top, and the other pulley ALMOST touching bottom.
You also need to raise or lower the motor, to achieve the correct tension on the belts. It's looser than you think, especially with Skip's belts. If it is slipping with a heavy load, drop the motor, just a tiny bit.
steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Oh, one more thing.
I've had both speedchangers set up on my various machines.
I've NEVER looked at the 1/5 or 1/8 readout. I look at the center sheave, and the belts.
Do it by sound or feel. (I think you're old enough to know what I mean.)
steve
I've had both speedchangers set up on my various machines.
I've NEVER looked at the 1/5 or 1/8 readout. I look at the center sheave, and the belts.
Do it by sound or feel. (I think you're old enough to know what I mean.)
steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
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Do it by sound or feel. (I think you're old enough to know what I mean.)
I trust that more then other things at times!!
Thanks guys, lots of info, when I get the belts and get the tubes cleaned up, we will revisit this for sure.
I trust that more then other things at times!!
Thanks guys, lots of info, when I get the belts and get the tubes cleaned up, we will revisit this for sure.
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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Still dont have the belts, not till after the 1st, payday. Then there is this,
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/t ... 45470.html
Still available!!
I did play and cleaned up the speed changer yesterday, really good shape, and see how it works. Everything moves real smooth. What is cup grease for the shaft the pulleys/sheaves rotate on. I am thinking it is bearing grease, like for wheel bearings on a trailer. I love AmsOil synthetic grease for that. Or is a good machine oil okay, or too thin. Plan on setting it on the low speed setup. Have plenty of other special purpose tools for there intended high speed use.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/t ... 45470.html
Still available!!
I did play and cleaned up the speed changer yesterday, really good shape, and see how it works. Everything moves real smooth. What is cup grease for the shaft the pulleys/sheaves rotate on. I am thinking it is bearing grease, like for wheel bearings on a trailer. I love AmsOil synthetic grease for that. Or is a good machine oil okay, or too thin. Plan on setting it on the low speed setup. Have plenty of other special purpose tools for there intended high speed use.
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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Cup grease as in wheel bearing cup. I think grease is better than oil since there is considerable side load.rbursek wrote:Still dont have the belts, not till after the 1st, payday. Then there is this,
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/tls/4540145470.html
Still available!!
I did play and cleaned up the speed changer yesterday, really good shape, and see how it works. Everything moves real smooth. What is cup grease for the shaft the pulleys/sheaves rotate on. I am thinking it is bearing grease, like for wheel bearings on a trailer. I love AmsOil synthetic grease for that. Or is a good machine oil okay, or too thin. Plan on setting it on the low speed setup. Have plenty of other special purpose tools for there intended high speed use.
Skou;
is the 0-8 speed changer the same as the 0-5 speed changer except for the center step on the pulley sheave and the indicator? i.e. is the speed range the same except for the belt positioning limit created by the step? i.e. is the speed range extended at settings 6 through 8 and the same at 0 through 5?
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JPG, the speeds 0-5 are the same on both models. The missing 6 to 8, is because of that step. (The belt can't go in as far.)
You've got it right.
steve
You've got it right.
steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.
Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
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Thank You!skou wrote:JPG, the speeds 0-5 are the same on both models. The missing 6 to 8, is because of that step. (The belt can't go in as far.)
You've got it right.
steve
Do you know the speeds obtained for 6 to 8?
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Gooooood Evening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JPG, glad to see you could join us this fine evening!!!
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
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I'se back home battling my ISP yoyoing.rbursek wrote:Gooooood Evening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JPG, glad to see you could join us this fine evening!!!
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I'se back home battling my ISP yoyoing.
I dont always understand your abbreviations, and I think humorist terms.
Let my try, battling something???, in your rocking chair, Rocking Chair for " yoyoing"?
ISP???
I dont always understand your abbreviations, and I think humorist terms.
Let my try, battling something???, in your rocking chair, Rocking Chair for " yoyoing"?
ISP???
Measure once, cut as many times as needed to get it right! Bob
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.
56/57 Greenie with jointer, 85 Mark V with band saw, 63 Goldie with jointer, 3 ER 10s, 1951 vintage, Hernia from the Er 10s, Tool Shop SS clone 6" jointer, and 6" belt sander, Delta 10" TS, Buffalo 6" jointer, Craftsman 12" BS, 10" Ryobi planer. Compound Miter, and misc.