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skou wrote:Yes, you can.

A bit of info, if you get an 8.25 inch blade, make SURE you check the clearances on the table insert. You may need to adjust the bolts holding the table to the trunnion. The blade may hit on the front or rear of the slot. (A few thousandths won't matter, at a low speed, the carbide teeth will remove that clearance, but anything more, and you'll cut into the insert, or worse, the table.) You may be able to slide the table fore or aft, to accommodate the difference.

Of course, YMMV. (Your mileage may vary, or your machine won't accept this "alteration.")

An 8 inch blade will ALWAYS work, however.

(I'm wondering if I should "machine" a table, just to accept a table to run a 10 inch blade, like the early Mk5s, and the MkVII? You know, on the left side of the table. I've got 2 or 3 spare tables.)

steve
Thanks Steve, I intend to get an 8 inch. There are some out there. The one mentioned on Amazon was one I was looking at. It would be interesting to see if a larger blade could be used, but you would need the power (motor) to accommodate it. Thanks for the response!
skou wrote:Dick, take REAL CARE of that woman. (Otherwise some other Mark 10 guy may take her from you.):D Women like that are one in a billion! (The fact that she knows who MickeyD is, is a game changer!)S

Let me know if/what I can do to help you.

steve
I HAVE taken care of her for 43 years. It is the first and only marriage for both of us (maybe we don't know any better LOL), but we have been blessed with a good relationship, it hasn't always been easy, life does throw some curves, but we adjusted as we went and are very happy and contented now.

ITB (in the beginning) I was showing her the pictures of MD's machine, and she wanted me to use that color scheme so I did. She even helped me polish the way tubes .... :D (more on that at the reveal) I did it "different" than many have. It involves a lathe, the pallet from the Mark 7 shipping box ... etc :D
dusty wrote:I use Freud. Now that does not guarantee anything but Freud has served me well. I don't know about availability of 8". The market may dictate what you use.

This clears that up.
I think I will order this one from Amazon. It is the thin kerf I want. and I will use the arbor adapter shown below, unless anyone has any objections ....

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BuckeyeDennis wrote:Based on recommendations here, I bought a Freud glue-line rip blade, thin kerf, for my 520. It works beautifully. According to the Freud website, they make an 8" version, but I couldn't find it available anywhere online.

High-quality thin-kerf 8" blades are probably going to be targeted at the radial arm saw market. Over at the DeWalt radial arm saw forum, the top recommended blade for 50's-vintage 3/4 hp saws is a Forrest WWI TCP (Triple-Chip Profile). That is special order, and will set you back over a hundred bucks. Forrest also makes a standard 8" WW1 blade at about the same price.

A close second is the Freud LU83R008. It has a 5/8" arbor and a 0.083" kerf. $43 at Amazon.

I may spring for the Forrest for my Dewalt MBF radial arm saw. But I will do little if any sawing on my 10ER, so the Freud would be my choice for that. If I ever get them restored, that is!
Thanks Dennis. I had already found the Freud on Amazon, but with my limited knowledge, I wanted you guys to make me feel warm and fuzzy.

Thanks to all who reponded. I really appreciate it. I am going south for the day and will order when I get back so if anyone has any objections, please do so.

I will take some pictures this PM and get them posted in a thread I will start later. I don't have a lot of before and after, but you guys will like how this old girl came back. More later. :D
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

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Dick, unless you only have a 1/2 inch arbor, you should be OK, just using that blade on the regular 5/8ths inch arbor. (And, you really should be using a 5/8ths arbor.)

ANY Shopsmith 5/8ths inch arbor will work on an ER, regardless of what the catalog says. Spacing may be different, and a dado/shaper arbor needs the THICK spacer in there, but any of them will work. (Make sure the blade and slot are in line.)

steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.

Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
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skou wrote:Dick, unless you only have a 1/2 inch arbor, you should be OK, just using that blade on the regular 5/8ths inch arbor. (And, you really should be using a 5/8ths arbor.)

ANY Shopsmith 5/8ths inch arbor will work on an ER, regardless of what the catalog says. Spacing may be different, and a dado/shaper arbor needs the THICK spacer in there, but any of them will work. (Make sure the blade and slot are in line.)

steve
The arbor that came with the 10ER is a half inch. I have another arbor and I will check it out. It came with the M7.

I got back late today, I will take pictures tomorrow..... :D
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

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mounted the new blade on Ciannait (A feminine name pronounced Keenaa which is Gaelic for ancient :D ). Absolutely glass smooth cuts, has a tendency to bog a little if forced (I was expecting that), but for small parts, perfect!

Thanks guys, again, great advice!

She is working again! Making some small parts for a shaving box design I am working on .... ;)

Dick
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Another option... I've had great performance from my Woodworker II blades. They will also have 1 1/4" bore.

http://www.forrestblades.com/woodworker ... able-saws/
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henecle wrote:Another option... I've had great performance from my Woodworker II blades. They will also have 1 1/4" bore.

http://www.forrestblades.com/woodworker ... able-saws/
Looks like a great alternative! So far this Freud is better than I expected, so far so good.

Nice list of equipment in your sig brother!

I wish I had gotten involved with woodworking when I was young and trainable .... :rolleyes:

Dick
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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