I admit I was wrong.

davebodner · Post by **davebodner** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:49 pm

ChrisNeilan wrote:Trust me, nothing survives the cremation process. Not bacteria, not virus, not prion. After cremation, everything is inorganic. 38 years in the business!

Thanks for confirming that.

fredsheldon · Post by **fredsheldon** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:55 pm

JPG wrote:You 'volunteering' to do the 'capturing'?:D

FWIW 'They' do not need any help plotting their objectives.

We would only capture the ones trying to flee that haven't got it yet. Those who are sick will be turned back to fend for themselves.

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:13 pm

ChrisNeilan wrote:Trust me, nothing survives the cremation process. Not bacteria, not virus, not prion. After cremation, everything is inorganic. 38 years in the business!

Tell that to the nurse that was told she was 100% protected, then tell it to the state of Louisiana. If cremation ashes are so innocuous then why is Louisiana so upset and why does Texas want to bury them in Louisiana in their bio harzadous dump?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:39 pm

Ed in Tampa wrote:Tell that to the nurse that was told she was 100% protected, then tell it to the state of Louisiana. If cremation ashes are so innocuous then why is Louisiana so upset and why does Texas want to bury them in Louisiana in their bio harzadous dump?

Fear. Fear of the unknown. Fear begat by ignorance(a somewhat reasonable prudence).

Not sure LA is far enough away from TX.

heathicus · Post by **heathicus** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:00 pm

Ed in Tampa wrote:Tell that to the nurse that was told she was 100% protected, then tell it to the state of Louisiana. If cremation ashes are so innocuous then why is Louisiana so upset and why does Texas want to bury them in Louisiana in their bio harzadous dump?

Right now, I think there's a mix of unreasonable and uninformed fear, very reasonable and informed fear, and apathetic lack of interest. Which is resulting in bad information and ridicule being mixed in with the good valid information.

From what I know, a chemical waste company in Louisiana has a contract with Texas (or whatever Texas agency/company is handling this) to dispose of their chemical waste. This company had already said they would not accept the ashes of the Ebola guy and his belongings. Then the Attorney General made the political move of announcing the State was going to block it as well.

It's not that Texas said "don't bury it here!" They were just following the contract they had with this Louisiana company. Then it became a political issue so the Attorney General could get his name in the news.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:02 pm

heathicus wrote:Right now, I think there's a mix of unreasonable and uninformed fear, very reasonable and informed fear, and apathetic lack of interest. Which is resulting in bad information and ridicule being mixed in with the good valid information.

From what I know, a chemical waste company in Louisiana has a contract with Texas (or whatever Texas agency/company is handling this) to dispose of their chemical waste. This company had already said they would not accept the ashes of the Ebola guy and his belongings. Then the Attorney General made the political move of announcing the State was going to block it as well.

It's not that Texas said "don't bury it here!" They were just following the contract they had with this Louisiana company. Then it became a political issue so the Attorney General could get his name in the news.

Imagine THAT!:rolleyes::mad:

ChrisNeilan · Post by **ChrisNeilan** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:35 pm

Ed in Tampa wrote:Tell that to the nurse that was told she was 100% protected, then tell it to the state of Louisiana. If cremation ashes are so innocuous then why is Louisiana so upset and why does Texas want to bury them in Louisiana in their bio harzadous dump?

Possibly because it is inappropriate to bury ashes in a dump? They are not biohazards, they are human remains. They should be treated with a little more respect than that.

This is a terrible situation. There are allegations from the nurses union that protocols have not been followed (repeatedly and by several healthcare workers). This puts the whole country in a horrific risk.

ChrisNeilan · Post by **ChrisNeilan** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:38 pm

And now, I think it's time for me to get off my soapbox and build a soapbox!;)

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:14 pm

ChrisNeilan wrote:Possibly because it is inappropriate to bury ashes in a dump? They are not biohazards, they are human remains. They should be treated with a little more respect than that.

This is a terrible situation. There are allegations from the nurses union that protocols have not been followed (repeatedly and by several healthcare workers). This puts the whole country in a horrific risk.

You stated that well.

I do hope the second paragraph is not totally accurate! Woe is us!:(

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:28 pm

Did anyone read the news today? They said the 2 cases with the Health care workers were NOT UNEXPECTED!!!!!!!!!

There was 100 Doctors and nurses that worked on the man that died and now 2 are infected. So in effect they are saying we can expect at least a 2% contaimation rate????????

Who wants to the be the next health care workers for these new cases?????

Remember at least 2 out of 100 will be infected.

In Tampa the nurses staged a "Died in" with about 25 laying down on the sidewalk in opposition of being placed in the situation of caring for these people without proper training and protection.

Remember the CDC said 2 out of 100 health care workers was not unexpected.

Also it is reported the infected second nurse called the Health Care organization that is overseeing this and told them she had a fever. They gave her permission to fly from Cleveland to Texas.