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Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:54 pm

ChrisNeilan wrote:The only known pathogens that might survive that are prions (Think Mad Cow Disease or spongiform encepolitus ) Now, if those ashes came from our local crematorium I would have no issue with them. We went through similar educations with TB and HIV.

Some very key and teling sentences here

2centsworth · Post by **2centsworth** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:48 am

Well it looks like the waiting period is over and the family members are cleared. However, the cost of doing business and making a mistake is really the major news here. The hospital is a ghost town. No one wants to go there or have any procedures there. Estimates are they are losing 2 to 3 million a day. The CDC is trying to blame everyone else for not following procedures when infact they did just that. Hope is , things will get back to normal in Texas and the hospital but at what cost ? They didn't ask for this patient he walked in. Yes they sent him home only to have him come back, but still it could be a disaster far bigger then anyone imagined. Let's not forget all the families that will be affected by the loss of jobs and layoffs that will follow because of a simply mistake. This epidemic is not over. Now the real waiting period begins. How long will the hospital have to wait to get back to normal daily services. Maybe never ! How long can they lose a couple million dollars a day and stay in business ? Truth be known there are only 11 yes eleven beds total in the United States equipped to handle these patients. The hospital in Texas was not one of them. At what cost do you do business ? Want to know why the stock market took such a hit last week ? Now you know, it effects us all.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:12 am

I wonder how we, the general public, will react when every hospital in the nation takes on the task of upgrading their facilities so as to be able to properly handle every sort of epidemic that might occur at some time in the future.

I also wonder if we will ever see the financials that result from the implementation of these "hot shot" teams that are being established. The theory being that if another ebola patient ever appears, that team will be immediately dispatched to wherever to handle the case. This will insure that the past mistakes will never be made again.

When the teams are finally developed and in place, will there be enough teams to handle the "next outbreak" and if there is not - who will be to blame?

On the flip side, if there are no more cases, who will be to blame for all that money spent to treat patients that never came?

As for the "Ebola Czar" that the President appointed. I hear the media ranting over this guy not being someone with a medical background but I have not heard anyone explain just what the Czar's responsibilities are to be. Unless he is going to be involved in the treatment of medical cases, does he really need to have a medical background.

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:50 am

Chicken Little?

Not really!

However we have been 'exposed' by one individual.

So how did 'he' get in?

That to me is where maximum effort needs to be placed.

There are no guarantees with that, but I think more cost effective than enabling every(or even more than a few) hospital in the country.

I agree the CDC should be pointing their fingers at themselves as has occurred in the recent past with another bodily fluids 'opinion'.

Hopefully this does not become the next cholera or 'Black Plague' or MRSA.

If y'all are admitted to a hospital, MRSA is a risk factor as I have observed.

fredsheldon · Post by **fredsheldon** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:06 am

And as I have stated before, what's keeping ISIS or some other group from sending some of their infected followers over here to start a panic. How would you feel if you knew there are no beds available for you and this thing begins to spread in your city. My 25' sailboat will only hold 8 people and you aren't one of them

I would also suspect that this might be a case where all the smaller government supporters might want big brother to get more involved.

dusty · Post by **dusty** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:20 am

fredsheldon wrote:And as I have stated before, what's keeping ISIS or some other group from sending some of their infected followers over here to start a panic. How would you feel if you knew there are no beds available for you and this thing begins to spread in your city. My 25' sailboat will only hold 8 people and you aren't one of them I would also suspect that this might be a case where all the smaller government supporters might want big brother to get more involved.

I wasn't arguing for or against. I was just wondering - "what if". This might be sorta like all of those "bomb shelters" that my neighbors built. Now they have some of the neatest "root cellars ever".

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:33 am

fredsheldon wrote:And as I have stated before, what's keeping ISIS or some other group from sending some of their infected followers over here to start a panic. How would you feel if you knew there are no beds available for you and this thing begins to spread in your city. My 25' sailboat will only hold 8 people and you aren't one of them I would also suspect that this might be a case where all the smaller government supporters might want big brother to get more involved.

My point was 'prudent prevention'(at the risk of individuals civil liberties) is likely a more effective approach.

Think TSA. They have much experience with tasks similar to that and are 'positioned' to do that.

I do not think I would want to be on a boat 'during;' this anyway.

I assume you were going on salt water.

I think we have already seen how big brother handles things.

Oh maybe Lake Pontchartrain is a good 'hiding' place.

Ed in Tampa · Post by **Ed in Tampa** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:48 am

We don't know the rest of the story.

Think about it.

Ebola is suppose to be so contagious yet the woman the man was going to marry doesn't catch it from him. I assume they kissed each other, possibly had sexual relations and lived together for a few days. No out break yet Ebola is sweeping through villages in Africa like wild fire. How come????????

Ebola when first discovered was sun sensitive meaning the virus died when exposed to direct sunlight now it is known to survive 3-4 hours.

Why were the drugs from Canada refused?

Why is Ebola patented?

Why aren't our borders closed?

In Africa there are 20 nations that will not allow anyone from an infected country into their nation. Most of Europe has stopped travel yet the US remains wide open.

It is report that there are over 100 visas a day issued to come to America from the infected nation of Sierra Leon not to mention travelers carrying other countries passports that are traveling from infected nations.

Does any of this make sense?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:54 pm

How does one 'patent' a virus?

JPG · Post by **JPG** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:00 pm

Last I knew, livestock was quarantined upon arrival. Are our domestic livestock more important than we?

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