Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
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Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
Gentlemen,
The good news is that my rebuilt control sheave came in the mail today...the bad news is that after connecting everything back together I think I have a bad capacitor. I cleaned the contacts in the relay, as a vehicle mechanic I have scene worse, and when I hook the wires back up (yes, they are on there correctly) the motor just sits there an hums instead of firing up then disconnecting from the capacitor to run at full speed. Besides updating the motor, does anyone know of a replacement capacitor or do I just head down the the local electrical store and see what they come up with? Thanks,
GreaseMonkey
The good news is that my rebuilt control sheave came in the mail today...the bad news is that after connecting everything back together I think I have a bad capacitor. I cleaned the contacts in the relay, as a vehicle mechanic I have scene worse, and when I hook the wires back up (yes, they are on there correctly) the motor just sits there an hums instead of firing up then disconnecting from the capacitor to run at full speed. Besides updating the motor, does anyone know of a replacement capacitor or do I just head down the the local electrical store and see what they come up with? Thanks,
GreaseMonkey
Jake
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
Have ya cleaned up the inside of the motor and oiled all the sheaves?
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
Yes, I have cleaned and oiled everything (I'm in the middle of a restoration on a 1958 Mark V) and I have the motor back out of the headstock sitting on the bench.beeg wrote:Have ya cleaned up the inside of the motor and oiled all the sheaves?
Jake
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
greasemonkey2275 wrote:Yes, I have cleaned and oiled everything (I'm in the middle of a restoration on a 1958 Mark V) and I have the motor back out of the headstock sitting on the bench.beeg wrote:Have ya cleaned up the inside of the motor and oiled all the sheaves?
GE motor with start relay mounted on the back end?
Take a pix of the wiring.
You got an ohmmeter?
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
GE motor with start relay mounted on the back end?
Take a pix of the wiring.
You got an ohmmeter?[/quote]
Yes, it is the GE motor with he start relay and capacitor mounted on the back. I used my ohmmeter on it and came up with little to no resistance.
Take a pix of the wiring.
You got an ohmmeter?[/quote]
Yes, it is the GE motor with he start relay and capacitor mounted on the back. I used my ohmmeter on it and came up with little to no resistance.
Jake
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
What do I have to do to upload a pic? I tried the upload attachment and it does not work. What am I missing?
Jake
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
Click at each arrow After click 1, the stuff for click 2 will appear below the stuff for click 1.greasemonkey2275 wrote:What do I have to do to upload a pic? I tried the upload attachment and it does not work. What am I missing?
Between 2 and 3 you will be browsing for the file
The Place inline is optional and requires first placing the cursor where you intend for it to go.
Also the comment is optional.
Finally there is a maximum size. I believe 1200 x 900 will work.
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
Jake
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
So I took the motor down the the local electrical motor repair shop and the capacitor was bad however once it was replaced the motor still didn't run. The guy rechecked the windings and everything seemed to be fine but he recommended replacing the relay/switch on the back. I brought everything back home and did a minor tweak here and there and now the motor fires off every time! So a $9 capacitor and a little tweak and I am back in business.
Jake
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Spokane, WA
Shopsmith Mark V S/N: 354008 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
Magna Bandsaw S/N: 31575 Born: 1956/Restored 2016
Magna Jointer S/N: 67527 Born: 1958/Restored: 2015
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Re: Safe-T-Mike Capacitor :confused:
Please explain 'tweak'. Did they give you the original capacitor back?greasemonkey2275 wrote:So I took the motor down the the local electrical motor repair shop and the capacitor was bad however once it was replaced the motor still didn't run. The guy rechecked the windings and everything seemed to be fine but he recommended replacing the relay/switch on the back. I brought everything back home and did a minor tweak here and there and now the motor fires off every time! So a $9 capacitor and a little tweak and I am back in business.
Make sure the relay is disconnecting the start circuit after it 'fires' up.
There should be an ac voltage across relay terminals 1 and 2 when motor is running. Do not expect it to be 115v, but much greater than zero.
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