Picked up my 57 greenie today

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Picked up my 57 greenie today

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Well I picked up my 57 greenie that I had actually made the deal on last winter but the owner and I just finally worked out me picking it up today. Nice lady whose dad had owned it probably from new.

A bit rougher than I would have liked cosmetically, but it should clean up nicely and I lubed the unit and started it up today, runs great but the electrical cord is a bit iffy. So, it was a good buy.

It didn't have casters on it :(

A few surprises came with it.

A 10ER scroll saw style arm, but with a pulley as shown.

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Is this for using with a auxiliary stand and motor? Unfortunately, this will need a few parts to make it useful again.

Some nice extras.
New in the box Mortising kit.
Front table extension.
Shaper fence, but all of the shaper bit boxes were empty.....
Precision dado adapter (is there a benefit to this?) It also came with the standard dado blade kit.
Brand new grinding wheel
Of course a few saw blades. Do you guys trust a old blade from a unknown source? Or scrap them? Only one is a carbide blade. None of them really get me excited! LOL

And then there is this. A cable driven belt sander. Not sure if it would have hooked up to the shopsmith? If so, I am missing an adapter. Does anyone have any info?

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and a universal hold down kit?

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And a 12 inch sanding disk, which I was hoping that it would have. I want to set different grits up on different discs. The old glue is REALLY stuck on it. Going to use heat to get the paper off and then deal with the adhesive unless someone has a easier method? Interesting that this disk is aluminum, and my later unit is steel?

Thanks for any info!
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10 ER, greenie, goldie all had aluminum sanding disks.

I cannot imagine a flexible shaft driven belt sander not being cumbersome.

Realize the greenie version of the front table extension differs from the later version.

Try lacquer thinner.
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I cannot imagine a flexible shaft driven belt sander not being cumbersome.
JPG,
I whole heartedly agree that the cable would be of a hindrance. But, I enjoy finding out about tools regardless. I don't see me using it as I have plenty of air sanders if I need something portable, but you have to admit, it is unique!
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10 ER, greenie, goldie all had aluminum sanding disks.
Any idea as to the reason for the change in usage of material?

Cost saving? Or did they find an issue with the aluminum disks?
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ddub wrote:
10 ER, greenie, goldie all had aluminum sanding disks.
Any idea as to the reason for the change in usage of material?

Cost saving? Or did they find an issue with the aluminum disks?

I am not aware of any issues that resulted in the steel disks. If I were to guess, it would be that the dies for the aluminum disks did not come with the acquisition of SS stuff from Magna American.
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ddub wrote:And then there is this. A cable driven belt sander. Not sure if it would have hooked up to the shopsmith? If so, I am missing an adapter. Does anyone have any info?
It is listed in this catalogue on the Vintage Machinery web site, page 29. Duro Power Driven Machinery, Tools of Progress, Catalog E-38 A
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I can remember Duro Power Tools' advertisements in the Chicago area back in the 40s after WWII ( I think) Was old enough to read adds, but not old enough to buy these expensive tools. Besides, don't think my parents wanted me to do any woodworking that involved anything but armstrong tools. - You know, the ones operated by hand.
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RPD,
Thanks for the link. I had found that website but didn't think to look in the actual catalogs... duh on my part. I was looking for the actual tool listed. VERY cool website. I have that one book marked now.

So, I'd place this sander from the late thirties, to the late forties. I wish my father was still with us, he'd get a kick out of this one.

charlese,
yes looking at the prices, they would have been very expensive in the day. Even when I was "growing up" we didn't have that much for power tools. A skill saw and a drill, that was about it. Even at that, I vaguely remember a hand operated drill that my father had when I was very young.
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Well, I did some cleaning on the "Greenie".

As I stated in the first post, this one was a bit rougher than I anticipated from pictures when I purchased it. I knew there was some surface rust on the lower tubes, didn't realize this much. I am guessing that they were never waxed, but the uppers were. The uppers were really quite nice.

I debated on how to "derust" them. Sandblast? Seemed pretty agressive. Replace, Not out of the question. Sand, kind of agressive again. How about polish? So, I grabbed my buffer, 6 inch Sisal Wheel and emery and went to work. (I didn't see the post about "turning" them with another Shopsmith until tonight! LOL)

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Cleaned up, lubed up, running nice.

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A few fasteners need to be replaced, nothing serious. Already used it to punch a bunch of holes in some acrylic sheeting.

After thinking about it, I figured I should explain what I used.

Pictured is a grinder with a sewn wheel, sisal wheel is a bit coarser.

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The emery is a "bar" of abrasive. Load up the wheel and spin the sisal at 1750 rpms. Probably a lot cheaper than using sandpaper in this case due to the amount of rust.
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FWIW, the greenie and goldie lower tubes were painted.
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E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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