Hi all, I am new here but lurked for a few years, but now need some specific help, I have 2 ERs, I was going to make one a show pony like some of you do and they look great by the way, I was lucky enough to get ones that just needed a bit of way tube clean up.
My nephew has a greenie and picked up a freebie ER, runs good, but the quill was extended about 2 inches, it is frozen in that position, I pulled the locking mechanism, and the lever and gear that operates the quill to extend/retract, still frozen, tapped on it and soaked with penetrating oil to no avail. Looking for help here on it, how to proceed with caution.
Tanks in advance.
Frozen ER Quill
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ERLover
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Frozen ER Quill
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
Re: Frozen ER Quill
What kind of "penetrating oil" and how long did you let it soak?
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Re: Frozen ER Quill
It was a month ago, orange can, I think Penitrol, mom of 95 has gotten health issues so been away from it, soaked over night, you know even a bit of grime,rust can act like a shim.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
Re: Frozen ER Quill
I don't know anything about Renitrol but from the description on their web site it is not penetrating oil.ERLover wrote:It was a month ago, orange can, I think Penitrol, mom of 95 has gotten health issues so been away from it, soaked over night, you know even a bit of grime,rust can act like a shim.
"PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
Penetrol® is a free-flowing, low-odor, high quality penetrating paint additive which compensates for the adverse effects that weather and surface conditions have on paints and primers."
That is not a penetrating oil for what you are trying to do.
Get a penetrating oil like Kroil (BTW WD40 is not a penetrating oil) and I bet you will have better results. It may take more than over night It took me 4 days to get a stuck bearing off a 10ER motor (AO Smith). I sprayed it every day.
John & Mary Burger
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Re: Frozen ER Quill
It was not that, maybe Kroil oil, yes penitrol is a paint thinner and a metal rust preventive coating.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
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Re: Frozen ER Quill
Try good old kerosene.
Others swear by ATF mixed with acetone.
Others swear by ATF mixed with acetone.
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Re: Frozen ER Quill
+10JPG wrote:Try good old kerosene.
Others swear by ATF mixed with acetone.
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: Frozen ER Quill
JPG,
over the past few years looking here you are one of the best. With your tips and threads on maintenance, I feel like I knew you in another life.
Thanks, you must have been from WI at some time!!!!!?????
over the past few years looking here you are one of the best. With your tips and threads on maintenance, I feel like I knew you in another life.
Thanks, you must have been from WI at some time!!!!!?????
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
The Greatness officially starts
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them.
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Re: Frozen ER Quill
Your name BOB?
If not where in the dairy state does thee hail from?
Not Lafayette County!
Or La Crosse?
If not where in the dairy state does thee hail from?
Not Lafayette County!
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Re: Frozen ER Quill
On the 10ER quill the splined end of the shaft goes all the way through the drive sleeve assembly, (the part the pulley mounts on).ERLover wrote:Hi all, I am new here but lurked for a few years, but now need some specific help, I have 2 ERs, I was going to make one a show pony like some of you do and they look great by the way, I was lucky enough to get ones that just needed a bit of way tube clean up.
My nephew has a greenie and picked up a freebie ER, runs good, but the quill was extended about 2 inches, it is frozen in that position, I pulled the locking mechanism, and the lever and gear that operates the quill to extend/retract, still frozen, tapped on it and soaked with penetrating oil to no avail. Looking for help here on it, how to proceed with caution.
Tanks in advance.
Try putting it in drill press mode and adding some penetrating oil in from that end, there may be rust and/or hardened grease on the splines.
Also check that the set screw on the pulley hasn't been over tightened and deformed the drive sleeve.
Ron Dyck
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,
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10ER #23430, 10ER #84609, 10ER #94987,two SS A-34 jigsaws for 10ER.
1959 Mark 5 #356595 Greenie, SS Magna Jointer, SS planer, SS bandsaw, SS scroll saw (gray), DC3300,