Off subject topic, in the proper place

[ExtraMile]

My MRI turned out to be negative. I do not have a tear. They labeled it as Tendonopathy and suggested PT, before injections.

Well, let me tell you one thing, PT IMHO is for the birds. I call it Legalized Torture, and if my doctor reasserts/suggests to me, to go to PT, then this is the end of that 'Malarky' because I won't go to PT.

[dusty]

My MRI turned out to be negative. I do not have a tear. They labeled it as Tendonopathy and suggested PT, before injections.

Well, let me tell you one thing, PT IMHO is for the birds. I call it Legalized Torture, and if my doctor reasserts/suggests to me, to go to PT, then this is the end of that 'Malarky' because I won't go to PT.

BIG, BIG MISTAKE, IMHO. Proper physical exercise is best and quickest way to recover total mobility. I, like you, thought I knew better and I now pay the price. I should have gone for "Legalized Torture".

[ChrisNeilan]

Dusty is spot on. I also doubted PT. had a neck/back issue a few years ago. Went to PT with my doubts. Even told the therapist my opinions. I ate my words and they tasted good! This year had a few weeks PT for a torn rotator cuff. Had the MRI and then the surgery plus more PT. At three months out I have full range of motion, almost no pain, and have been given the go ahead to resume normal duties. If I had not done the PT my shoulder would still be useless and would have probably stayed that way. Bottom line, it really helps, and no, you can't do it on your own. As much of a pain the the but it is, do it

[wa2crk]

No pain, no gain
Bill V

[garys]

Extramile,
I agree with you. If you don't want PT, then don't do it. Unless you are a weak willed person who expects someone else to do things for you, you can do all your PT at home yourself and get the same results as going to someone to have it done.
My 88 year old Mother just had a knee replacement. She refused to go to their PT. Instead, she did her own PT at home by herself, and when she went in for her 3 week checkup, her doctor and nurse couldn't believe how well she was doing. The doctor wished he had her there in his office to show her off to his younger patients who were struggling at getting back on their feet because they weren't progressing like she did in spite of the fact that they did the PT visits and were still failing.

So, good for you. If you are a strong willed person, you don't need them. You can do it yourself.
I just recently read the results of a study on shoulder rotator cuff injuries. The study concluded that people with most rotator cuff injuries will recover at the same speed if they have no PT, or if they have PT, and recovery is usually faster either way without surgery. The body has the ability to repair all but the most serious rotator cuff injuries by itself.

Many other physical injuries and problems can take care of themselves the same way if the patient has the will power to work his or her way through it.

[Gene Howe]

For years, I suffered with a congenitally deviated spine. Not really bad but enough to cause me pain as I grew older. I relied on Chiropractors and OTC pain meds until I finally had an episode that almost totally immobilized me. Dr. prescribed PT. Went 4 times until the pain was nearly gone, then continued the exercises at home. If I feel a twinge now and then, 10 minutes of stretching and tensing takes care of it.
Glad I got smart and ditched the Chiro in favor of the PT. Took me long enugh but, I am a slow learner.

[dusty]

Extramile,
I agree with you. If you don't want PT, then don't do it. Unless you are a weak willed person who expects someone else to do things for you, you can do all your PT at home yourself and get the same results as going to someone to have it done.
My 88 year old Mother just had a knee replacement. She refused to go to their PT. Instead, she did her own PT at home by herself, and when she went in for her 3 week checkup, her doctor and nurse couldn't believe how well she was doing. The doctor wished he had her there in his office to show her off to his younger patients who were struggling at getting back on their feet because they weren't progressing like she did in spite of the fact that they did the PT visits and were still failing.

So, good for you. If you are a strong willed person, you don't need them. You can do it yourself.
I just recently read the results of a study on shoulder rotator cuff injuries. The study concluded that people with most rotator cuff injuries will recover at the same speed if they have no PT, or if they have PT, and recovery is usually faster either way without surgery. The body has the ability to repair all but the most serious rotator cuff injuries by itself.

Many other physical injuries and problems can take care of themselves the same way if the patient has the will power to work his or her way through it.

"I agree with you. If you don't want PT, then don't do it."

Oh yes, I agree. If you don't want it, don't do it. But then later, don't blame someone else for your agony. Suck it up and carry on as best you can.

PT will still be an option but will likely be more painful and if this is an insurance claim at this point it might be at your own expense .

[ExtraMile]

Sorry dusty, this WILL NOT happen. Oh about 15 years ago, I was told to go to PT for my back. I would go, 3 times a week. M-W-F. By Friday, they had me in so much agony, that I ached the entire leading weekend. I did this schedule for 2 months. I saw very little improvement. They swore that it would get better and I must comeback after the holidays 'Christmas & New Year' (C&NY) Prior to their C&NY, even if I were a few minutes late, they would call me, asking me if I were coming. Ironic thing, during the and leading up to the C&NY, they did nothing of the sort. Immediately after, the barrage of phones calls, began to pour in.

I never went back, because my back was feeling much better, the longer I was away from them.

And I never returned their phone calls.

All they are, is a legal Torture Chamber, who suck money from your insurance benefits and then demand more money from your wallet!!!

[dusty]

And you now judge all Physical Trainers to be the same as that ONE facility FIFTEEN years ago.

[reible]

I guess we all go back to our past so I will too. I had a serious back injury and tried to get by. It worked for a while but it finally got so bad I could not straighten up and walking with a pain down my leg. No way could I go to work or do much of anything.

Had to be taken to the DR office where I was sent for the famous MRI chamber. Turns out I had multiple herniated disks. The choice I made was for 2 weeks of bed rest followed by going to PT.

I was on 3 muscle relaxants per day plus pain medications. I was pretty much out of it. I didn't like that feeling. Need less to say I couldn't work, drive or do much of anything for a while.

I was told that I would not be allowed to go back to work without a DR. permission. Part of that was me getting off the medication and being able to function. Walking was a prime directive so while I looked like a crocked old man walking down the sidewalk I did as I was told.

I was prescribed PT and the first times they tried traction to remove some of the pain..... it did nothing for me. I did also receive instructions on bending, setting and for how long and a long list of exercises to do. After the two weeks of bed rest it was shocking on how weak I was. My arms were like wet noodles.... Never have I ever felt so wasted.

It was hard work but not recovering was not an option so I went with the pain and things started to click together. I was assigned 8 weeks but they felt I was done at 6 weeks. About a week later I drove my son to a summer job some 400 miles away and it went very well.

I still have back pain, always will. I do have some phantom pains which are always interesting, but while not perfect I can have remained functional since then.

I feel I learned a good deal about my condition at PT. For me it was well worth it. Yes I do occasional have issues but so far I have used what I learned to deal with them.

Ed