ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Forum for Maintenance and Repair topics. Feel free to ask questions or contribute.

Moderator: admin

ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by ERLover »

I bought an Er this weekend, it came with a scroll saw, just getting a chance to look it over, and the bucket of parts for both, I went to Vintage Machinery and down loaded the info for it/scroll saw, and briefly read it. I need to go back to the bucket and see what I got for mounting. Any insight her appreciated since I have not read much about them and all new for me on this one.
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
rjent
Platinum Member
Posts: 2121
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:00 pm
Location: Hot Springs, New Mexico

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by rjent »

Mine is just amazing. Works great :cool:

One bolt attaches it. I am concerned about the presserfoot being made of pot metal, but I have seen replacements made of aluminum.

Top half comes off (with a spacer for the bolt) and turns into a saber saw using standard hand jig saw blades.

Very impressive operation for something 60 years old. Took mine apart (like I did the rest of the machine), cleaned it up, painted it Verde Green and carried on. Not much to it ....
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
User avatar
BuckeyeDennis
Platinum Member
Posts: 3814
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:03 pm
Location: Central Ohio

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by BuckeyeDennis »

rjent wrote:Mine is just amazing. Works great :cool:

One bolt attaches it. I am concerned about the presserfoot being made of pot metal, but I have seen replacements made of aluminum.

Top half comes off (with a spacer for the bolt) and turns into a saber saw using standard hand jig saw blades.

Very impressive operation for something 60 years old. Took mine apart (like I did the rest of the machine), cleaned it up, painted it Verde Green and carried on. Not much to it ....
Where did you see those aluminum replacement feet? Mine was badly cracked/crazed when I got it, and then a minor accidental drop broke it in half.
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by JPG »

Harumph!!! It is a 'jig' saw.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
User avatar
rjent
Platinum Member
Posts: 2121
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:00 pm
Location: Hot Springs, New Mexico

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by rjent »

BuckeyeDennis wrote:
rjent wrote:Mine is just amazing. Works great :cool:

One bolt attaches it. I am concerned about the presserfoot being made of pot metal, but I have seen replacements made of aluminum.

Top half comes off (with a spacer for the bolt) and turns into a saber saw using standard hand jig saw blades.

Very impressive operation for something 60 years old. Took mine apart (like I did the rest of the machine), cleaned it up, painted it Verde Green and carried on. Not much to it ....
Where did you see those aluminum replacement feet? Mine was badly cracked/crazed when I got it, and then a minor accidental drop broke it in half.
I think it was Skip at MKC. You might want to drop him a line. If it wasn't he will probably know who has it or makes them.

Let me know if you find out. I may get one just 'cause .... :)

Edit: it was just a block of aluminum with holes drilled at the correct angle for the guide material and a tapped hole for the pressure foot bolt. Pretty simple. An engineer type like yourself could probably make one in your sleep ..... ;)
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6585
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by jsburger »

I believe that bolt is not an off the shelf item.

FWIW, both Hogwinslow and Simon*e have them listed most of the time on eBay. They are listed as new so either they have found a source or are making them. My guess is the latter.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
User avatar
rjent
Platinum Member
Posts: 2121
Joined: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:00 pm
Location: Hot Springs, New Mexico

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by rjent »

jsburger wrote:I believe that bolt is not an off the shelf item.

FWIW, both Hogwinslow and Simon*e have them listed most of the time on eBay. They are listed as new so either they have found a source or are making them. My guess is the latter.
That is correct. I was missing the bolt and I got mine off of ebay. I don't know if it was H and S or not, but it works ....
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....

"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by ERLover »

For scrolling do the blades the MS sells fit the old scroll saws from the ER era?
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
User avatar
skou
Platinum Member
Posts: 1944
Joined: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:53 am
Location: Mesa (near Phoenix) Az

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by skou »

JPG wrote:Harumph!!! It is a 'jig' saw.
Quite right!

A scroll saw has an inner frame that holds the blade,
(think coping saw) and keeps tension on the blade, too.

A jigsaw has a spring, that the blade pulls against for tension.

And, the Model 10 one IS a jigsaw.

steve
10 ER, stripped down.
Basic 10ER, Parts machine. Will be a semi-dedicated drill-press machine.
10 ER, a "survivor" of the trailer fire, in the back yard, needing restoration. Has a Mk5 headrest. Finally, stripped down.
Numerous parts, for Model 10 stuff. Except for lower saw guard, A and B adapters, I've got it.

Looking for one more, or some 9 inch extension table raisers.
User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6585
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: ER Vintage Scroll Saw

Post by jsburger »

ERLover wrote:For scrolling do the blades the MS sells fit the old scroll saws from the ER era?
They are actually jig saws not scroll saws but yes they fit I believe.
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Post Reply