polishing way tubes
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- tomsalwasser
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polishing way tubes
Someone recently posted pictures of their lathe rig for polishing way tubes. I can't seem to locate the thread. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: polishing way tubes
I created a plug using the lathe (on the Mark 7) to "drive" the tube. Some have come up with some very elaborate (and functional) holding devices on the free end. I just created a crude frame from 2x4's and anchored it to the end frame of the Mark 7. Worked like a champ. At the end of the process, as the plug was getting used, I had my wife push on the end with a block, but that was only for the last 10 min. or so. All you need to do is make it stable while wire brushing and sanding.
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
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1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
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Re: polishing way tubes
Look at John Burgers Er restoration picks, I did a pipe plug stopper, with a longer bolt in it chucked in the drill chuck, and at the other end mounted a couple casters to a board to support the way tube and then clamped that board to the auxiliary table.
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Re: polishing way tubes
"Freeze plug" "core plug" Expanding rubber type.
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Re: polishing way tubes
That is a great idea. It is sort of what I did, except I had a stand that stood on the floor, and was stabilized in the longitudinal plane to the SS with a board. I then used, like I said, a tapered wood plug turned on the lathe to drive the tube.reible wrote:Some years back this is what I did:
http://www.shopsmith.com/ss_forum/viewt ... 07&p=69197
Ed
OK, almost nothing like I did, but it proves you don't need anything elaborate, just functional ....
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: polishing way tubes
Great ideas all, thanks guys.
JP, if I used a freeze plug like this one, http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorm ... 7CL3*16025 I could use the drill chuck like Michael did to grab the bolt for a little low speed spin action? Otherwise I could attach a block of wood to a lathe faceplate, which I think is what Dick did, and turn it till it fits inside the tube. It would be my first SS lathe project. I could have the other end of the tube resting in a v-crotch cut out of plywood like Ed used and I'd be in business with very little cost. Although I would like to get a nova chuck for the lathe eventually, I will probably have to wait on that for now.
JP, if I used a freeze plug like this one, http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorm ... 7CL3*16025 I could use the drill chuck like Michael did to grab the bolt for a little low speed spin action? Otherwise I could attach a block of wood to a lathe faceplate, which I think is what Dick did, and turn it till it fits inside the tube. It would be my first SS lathe project. I could have the other end of the tube resting in a v-crotch cut out of plywood like Ed used and I'd be in business with very little cost. Although I would like to get a nova chuck for the lathe eventually, I will probably have to wait on that for now.
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Re: polishing way tubes
It was my first as welltomsalwasser wrote:Great ideas all, thanks guys.
JP, if I used a freeze plug like this one, http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorm ... 7CL3*16025 I could use the drill chuck like Michael did to grab the bolt for a little low speed spin action? Otherwise I could attach a block of wood to a lathe faceplate, which I think is what Dick did, and turn it till it fits inside the tube. It would be my first SS lathe project. I could have the other end of the tube resting in a v-crotch cut out of plywood like Ed used and I'd be in business with very little cost. Although I would like to get a nova chuck for the lathe eventually, I will probably have to wait on that for now.
Sounds like a plan .... When you turn it, make sure it has a slight taper. That way you wedge it into the tube. Mine worked great .... FWIW
It was my first lesson in the idea of having at least 2 shopsmiths. I rebuilt the 10ER using the Mark 7 when I could.
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: polishing way tubes
Here's the setup I used: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kschwarz2 ... 628899564/
I used #8 a freeze plug with a hex spacer and a regular Jacobs chuck
You don't need to get all the rust or pitting out to make them nice, and don't make the headstock tubes too shiny smooth or the locks might not grip well.
I used #8 a freeze plug with a hex spacer and a regular Jacobs chuck
You don't need to get all the rust or pitting out to make them nice, and don't make the headstock tubes too shiny smooth or the locks might not grip well.
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Re: polishing way tubes
Freeze plug 'chuck'.
Rubber freeze plug sized for the tube(yes there are different wall thicknesses hence different IDs.) See previous post by tomsalwasser for link.
Coupling nut to fit the plug threads.
Discard(salt away) the nut that came with the freeze plug.
Screw the coupling nut onto the freeze plug threads.
Place modified freeze plug(coupling nut) into drill chuck etc.
Insert way tube onto expanding part of freeze plug.
Tighten nut(now a long coupler) until the rubber expands tightly in the id of the tube.
Support the far end.
Set to slowest speed.
Get on with it!!!
Rubber freeze plug sized for the tube(yes there are different wall thicknesses hence different IDs.) See previous post by tomsalwasser for link.
Coupling nut to fit the plug threads.
Discard(salt away) the nut that came with the freeze plug.
Screw the coupling nut onto the freeze plug threads.
Place modified freeze plug(coupling nut) into drill chuck etc.
Insert way tube onto expanding part of freeze plug.
Tighten nut(now a long coupler) until the rubber expands tightly in the id of the tube.
Support the far end.
Set to slowest speed.
Get on with it!!!
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