Human finger in Saw Stop

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Re: Human finger in Saw Stop

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No nitrates/salt in the steak!!!! I checked into this when the video first came out, allot depends on conductivity. Unless there is a way of operating the saw with the "saw stop"' deactivated or the steak demo was not on a saw stop saw. Remember what your parents told you when you were young?? Dont believe what you hear and only have of what you see!!! OMG, did I just hear that from my parents. :confused:
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I believe there's a bypass switch on the SawStop so you can cut green wood, or steaks (or fingers!), without activating the blade braking system. I recall there's also a system to take whatever material you intend to cut, touch the stationary blade (BEFORE you start the saw) and it will tell you whether that particular material will trigger the brake.

I also understand there is some kind of algorithm that determines whether the electrical resistance of any object touching the blade is equivalent to the resistance of human flesh.

The electrical engineers can chime in....
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I agree with Dusty, I will stay with my safety practices that have worked for over 50 years, prudence and safe practices, not rely on some mechanical device, that may lead me to be careless, and fale that same time. Odds, not likely but I dont want to loose my sharpness and practices.
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ERLover wrote:I agree with Dusty, I will stay with my safety practices that have worked for over 50 years, prudence and safe practices, not rely on some mechanical device, that may lead me to be careless, and fale that same time. Odds, not likely but I dont want to loose my sharpness and practices.
Why do you assume you would lose your sharpness and ignore safety practices using a saw with blade braking technology? Do you drive more carelessly because you have air bags? I don't.
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Why do you assume you would lose your sharpness and ignore safety practices using a saw with blade braking technology? Do you drive more carelessly because you have air bags? I don't.[/quote]
I do and with ABS breaking system. Yes they could fail at the moment I need them the most. Just would not want to get lazy with my other tools.
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ERLover wrote:Why do you assume you would lose your sharpness and ignore safety practices using a saw with blade braking technology? Do you drive more carelessly because you have air bags? I don't.
I do and with ABS breaking system. Yes they could fail at the moment I need them the most. Just would not want to get lazy with my other tools.[/quote]

The 'concern' I have, is the coming generations do not acquire a respect for things that can harm. i.e. when always 'protected' no consideration is given to the things from which they are not protected. That is, no good habits are developed.

Also no ability to handle risk is developed either.


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Guess I was born 30 years too soon!
No JPG, most younger parents were born 30 years to late!!! They need an App to remind them they have there child in the back seat of there car in a baby seat.
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I posted not because of the virtue of the SawStop but because here is someone crazy enough to stick his finger into a turning saw blade. Imagine just for a moment if the SawStop unit was defective he probably would have lost a good chunk of finger.
No manufacturing is 100% perfect 100% of the time, that could have been the one failure.
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Ed, I agree, heck I lost a molar a year ago, and I thought, part of me wont be around in me any more. Now I am not saying I want to loose a finger or a part of it, I mean other then the trauma of it happening, and the trip to an ER, I am sure with a bit of adjustment I would be totally functional without it. There can be worse things lost. Toes, lack of balance, an eye depth perception, lose of hearing even in one ear.
I am not down playing the lose of a finger or finger tip, using a key board could be a bit of a challenge for a bit, heck some nights it is a challenge with all of them, but then that maybe the problem :eek:
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algale wrote:
davebodner wrote:I have no idea how many "false positives" the Saw Stop system undergoes. I know others have mentioned them in the past. It might be a small price to pay to save a finger in the case of a slow controlled feed into the saw blade. However, I keep thinking the more likely finger-eating accidents happen much faster, like in a kickback. With your hand moving as fast as that, I'm thinking you'll be lucky to keep your finger even with a Saw Stop.
You'd be surprised. There are YouTube videos of people slamming a hot dog at a very fast speed into the blade. The hot dog gets only a tiny cut that you'd probably put a band aid on and forget if it were your finger. Here's one such video.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqvXYUBjCKw[/youtube]

Politics aside, there's little doubt that the technology can really reduce the severity of table saw injuries.
That's pretty fast. I was thinking about this guy around the 4:00 mark (that someone else introduced us to). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7sRrC2Jpp4 But, you might have me convinced.
Ed, I agree, heck I lost a molar a year ago,
If that was a tablesaw accident, I want to hear all about it!
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