Scroll sawing into insanity

This is a forum for intermediate to advanced woodworkers. Show off your projects or share your ideas.

Moderator: admin

Beave2012
Platinum Member
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 12:57 pm
Location: Minneapolis MN

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by Beave2012 »

Any guesses what my weekend activities involve? Hint: although it looks like birdshot, it is not. :)

BTW I need a 20" throat on the drill press now. Lol had to hand drill the center.
IMAG0397-1600x900.jpg
IMAG0397-1600x900.jpg (251.75 KiB) Viewed 3243 times
-Beave
ERLover
Platinum Member
Posts: 3914
Joined: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:19 pm
Location: Greenie and Goldie Country not to metion the WI Badgers!

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by ERLover »

Drawing by the numbers, dot to dot, without the numbers yet?
KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE EQUALS WISDOM. Albert Einstein
The Greatness officially starts :D :D :D :D :D :D
Greenie, Grayling, SS stand alone BS and BS SPT, jointer and belt sander, 3 Ers with Speed Changers. I think those 3 cover my ER needs, and space for them. :)
Beave2012
Platinum Member
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 12:57 pm
Location: Minneapolis MN

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by Beave2012 »

Well I have spent many hours in the shop (ok garage, but at least now its heated!), and got the center of the main backer completed.

However, I must say I have done nothing but curse the spiral blades, not because of mistakes, but because of how fragile they are compared to the regular blades. I am using them however because I don't have to worry about the throat getting in the way during curves. I used the regular skip tooth blades most of the center, until I started hitting the throat, then swapped to spiral.

Additionally, during my scrolling hours I managed to break the spring in the scroll saw itself, and clogged up the air blower. So once the spring broke inside, I had to tear it apart (first time for everything), hope it was the spring I saw on the parts diagram, and then "repair" it and clean out the blower cylinder so that could work. All works fine, but slowed down progress. At least I know for next time how to open up the scroll saw, because this time I removed every bolt I could find, almost gave up, and then checked behind the "Shopsmith" stickers for the last 2 bolts.

Not to mention I went and oiled the headstock before starting, just for good measure. I just hope now that I can finish without having to disassemble any more tools.

I still hope to have the last of the frets done by the end of the week. With any luck, that should happen.
-Beave
Beave2012
Platinum Member
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 12:57 pm
Location: Minneapolis MN

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by Beave2012 »

About 18 hours at the scroll Saw for this piece. 20 spiral blades, 2 headstock lubrications, a tear down of the saw, and cramped hands from a lot of blade changes.

I did feel as if I was dancing cutting the boarder without a spiral, so large to rotate without getting a workout.

2 shelves and finishing work left.
IMAG0422-600x1067.jpg
IMAG0422-600x1067.jpg (174.24 KiB) Viewed 3091 times
Last edited by Beave2012 on Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:26 am, edited 1 time in total.
-Beave
User avatar
algale
Platinum Member
Posts: 4841
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:13 am

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by algale »

It looks great! What needed lubing?
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!

Beave2012
Platinum Member
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 12:57 pm
Location: Minneapolis MN

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by Beave2012 »

algale wrote:It looks great! What needed lubing?
I'm currently up to 451 individual cuts (449 inside cuts), and with the dial being turned to speed for around 400+ of those cuts, I blew out and lubed the sheeves. The motor was on for a long time and I thought lube was once every 5 hours runtime, so I did it to make the dial turn easier and, it was over due to be honest.
-Beave
User avatar
algale
Platinum Member
Posts: 4841
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:13 am

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by algale »

Beave2012 wrote:
algale wrote:It looks great! What needed lubing?
I'm currently up to 451 individual cuts (449 inside cuts), and with the dial being turned to speed for around 400+ of those cuts, I blew out and lubed the sheeves. The motor was on for a long time and I thought lube was once every 5 hours runtime, so I did it to make the dial turn easier and, it was over due to be honest.
I misunderstood! I thought you meant you needed to lube the scroll saw!
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!

User avatar
jsburger
Platinum Member
Posts: 6585
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:06 pm
Location: Hooper, UT

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by jsburger »

Beave2012 wrote:
algale wrote:It looks great! What needed lubing?
I'm currently up to 451 individual cuts (449 inside cuts), and with the dial being turned to speed for around 400+ of those cuts, I blew out and lubed the sheeves. The motor was on for a long time and I thought lube was once every 5 hours runtime, so I did it to make the dial turn easier and, it was over due to be honest.
Are you saying for every cut you turned the machine to slow., moved to the next cut and turned the machine up to speed? I would leave it set to the proper speed and just turn it off and on. When you are done with the current cutting session then turn it down to slow.

I know what SS says but I have always believed it was a safety/liability issue. By always turning it to slow you won't over speed an SPT and cause damage or injury. My shorty is used primarily as a sanding station. It has the disk on almost all the time. I leave it set on "G" which is the middle of the disk sanding range. "G" is also in the speed range of the belt sander and strip sander that are used on the same machine so no problem. And no it does not blow the circuit breaker at that speed.

Really nice job on the scroll sawing!
John & Mary Burger
Eagle's Lair Woodshop
Hooper, UT
Beave2012
Platinum Member
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon May 04, 2015 12:57 pm
Location: Minneapolis MN

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by Beave2012 »

jsburger wrote:
Beave2012 wrote:
algale wrote:It looks great! What needed lubing?
I'm currently up to 451 individual cuts (449 inside cuts), and with the dial being turned to speed for around 400+ of those cuts, I blew out and lubed the sheeves. The motor was on for a long time and I thought lube was once every 5 hours runtime, so I did it to make the dial turn easier and, it was over due to be honest.
Are you saying for every cut you turned the machine to slow., moved to the next cut and turned the machine up to speed? I would leave it set to the proper speed and just turn it off and on. When you are done with the current cutting session then turn it down to slow.

I know what SS says but I have always believed it was a safety/liability issue. By always turning it to slow you won't over speed an SPT and cause damage or injury. My shorty is used primarily as a sanding station. It has the disk on almost all the time. I leave it set on "G" which is the middle of the disk sanding range. "G" is also in the speed range of the belt sander and strip sander that are used on the same machine so no problem. And no it does not blow the circuit breaker at that speed.

Really nice job on the scroll sawing!
LOL, we'll yes I did turn it up and down every cut... I thought it was too keep it running well. If it's a safety issue, I could just buy a peddle for scroll sawing. My SS is on its own dedicated 30a breaker, so that's no issue.

My hands are sore from speed adjustments, wish I had known this earlier. :)
-Beave
User avatar
JPG
Platinum Member
Posts: 35600
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:42 pm
Location: Lexington, Ky (TAMECAT territory)

Re: Scroll sawing into insanity

Post by JPG »

I have never encountered a problem with NOT turning the speed down in over a half century regardless of the operation. However I have a 230v motor(greatly reduced startup current). It has never been operated in a low house power location either.

At scroll saw speed/load I would not be concerned with lowering the speed between on/off cycles even with a 115v motor.

An indirect reason for the lowering speed at the end of the day(or prior to being moved) is that at high speed settings, the control sheave is open and the motor belt can potentially drop too low into the pulley and cause a belt jam.

And then there is the slow spt installed after a high speed operation 'issue'.
╔═══╗
╟JPG ╢
╚═══╝

Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10
E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
Post Reply